Woolwich serious incident

elmarko · 31 May 2013 at 10:15

G|mp said:
Or I could just follow you around the forum waiting for your next RSS feed

Or a video of a plane.

To be fair, he's right - it's a forum for debating, not a news feed.

robgmun said:
I have serious problems with Gilly posting his views on the thread and moderating it at the same time. It's obvious he has a bias and he is free to express it. But to threaten to close it because he sees views he doesn't agree with is distrubing to me.

Gilly, by all means post, but by posting you views i feel you should forfit you right to moderate in this thread and get someone else to be the mod here.

Not allowing racism to be posted on a public forum isn't the same as moderator abuse based on political preference.

G|mp · 31 May 2013 at 10:17

elmarko said:
To be fair, he's right - it's a forum for debating, not a news feed.

To be fair there were decent updates on the current situation until all the BS started

But hey carry on, it's thrilling.

elmarko · 31 May 2013 at 10:20

G|mp said:
To be fair there were decent updates on the current situation until all the BS started

But hey carry on, it's thrilling.

Ironic really, as the last two posts you made contributed nothing to either the story or the debate which came from it.

Keep 'contributing'.

If you want news updates then how about...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/
http://news.sky.com/
http://www.itv.com/news/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/

Just saying...

Personally I've found this thread pretty illuminating, as I now understand why I disagree with certain posters on so many different issues.

It seems they are idiots (who would have guessed).

deuse · 31 May 2013 at 10:23

Gilly said:
No, they're labelled as racist because they're racist.

citation needed.(doing a dolph)

So you don't vote for any party then? I mean you're well aware that all parties have racist people inside them.

Gilly · 31 May 2013 at 10:40

scorza said:
UKIP aren't a racist party

Yes they are.

scorza said:
Do you agree with the concept of international borders?

Yes.

robgmun said:
I have serious problems with Gilly posting his views on the thread and moderating it at the same time. It's obvious he has a bias and he is free to express it. But to threaten to close it because he sees views he doesn't agree with is distrubing to me.

Gilly, by all means post, but by posting you views i feel you should forfit you right to moderate in this thread and get someone else to be the mod here.

I'm truly sorry you feel that way.

elmarko said:
Not allowing racism to be posted on a public forum isn't the same as moderator abuse based on political preference.

Well explained. Thanks

deuse said:
So you don't vote for any party then? I mean you're well aware that all parties have racist people inside them.

Having racist people in them and having racist ideals is different.

Amnesia · 31 May 2013 at 10:53

robgmun said:
I have serious problems with Gilly posting his views on the thread and moderating it at the same time.

I don't.

RDM · 31 May 2013 at 10:56

Gilly said:
Yes they are.

What polices are specifically racist? They are somewhat xenophobic, blatantly homophobic and generally poplularist but while I am not entirely sure they are racist. They are not really far right either, though definitely right wing.

deuse · 31 May 2013 at 11:04

Gilly said:
Yes they are.

As I have already asked but again Citation needed.

Having racist people in them and having racist ideals is different.

So you do vote for closet racist parties, thought so.

elmarko · 31 May 2013 at 11:13

deuse said:
So you do vote for closet racist parties, thought so.

So by that logic, every single large business (as they would have at least one racist in say) is a closet racist organisation?.

As I said before, you fail at logic - please form better arguments.

scorza · 31 May 2013 at 11:13

elmarko said:
Which parts of liberalism do you not agree with?.

The bits where we must open our borders to uncontrolled immigration. The bit where we have to promote other people's cultures above our own. The bit where we get so scared of tackling crime in any non-native culture for fear of the racism tag.

elmarko · 31 May 2013 at 11:24

scorza said:
The bits where we must open our borders to uncontrolled immigration.

We don't have an open border policy.

scorza said:
The bit where we have to promote other people's cultures above our own.

This doesn't happen, nowhere do we have a mandatory "you must promote different cultures" rule.

scorza said:
The bit where we get so scared of tackling crime in any non-native culture for fear of the racism tag.

Neither does this.

Gilly · 31 May 2013 at 11:29

RDM said:
What polices are specifically racist? They are somewhat xenophobic, blatantly homophobic and generally poplularist but while I am not entirely sure they are racist. They are not really far right either, though definitely right wing.

My understanding is that right-wing is mainstream right and far right is simply beyond that.

By showing their xenophobic, anti-Islam, homophobic, anti-foreigner colours; not to mention their views on hunting, tax, etc. I'd place them well beyond right wing.

Their whole ethos is based on racist ideologies. Deuse seems to think that other pasties are racist without showing it. Does that make UKIP better because they do show it?

Show me another party that has courted so many accusations, so much in-fighting and drama with so many of their members overtly announcing their backwards morality and ideals.

deuse said:
As I have already asked but again Citation needed.

I'm sorry, is that a question?

deuse said:
So you do vote for closet racist parties, thought so.

Where did I say that? Don't put words into my mouth.

PooBrain · 31 May 2013 at 11:30

elmarko said:
We don't have an open border policy.

This doesn't happen, nowhere do we have a mandatory "you must promote different cultures" rule.

Neither does this.

You won't notice any of it what with your head in the sand...

PooBrain · 31 May 2013 at 11:32

Gilly said:
Show me another party that has courted so many accusations, so much in-fighting and drama with so many of their members overtly announcing their backwards morality and ideals.

Well there are two major parties that do that every day. Whether or not most of it goes public is another story.

elmarko · 31 May 2013 at 11:40

PooBrain said:
Well there are two major parties that do that every day. Whether or not most of it goes public is another story.

deuse · 31 May 2013 at 11:47

Gilly said:
I'm sorry, is that a question?.

Originally Posted by Gilly
No, they're labelled as racist because they're racist

So I asked Citation needed. So lets hear it.

Neil79 · 31 May 2013 at 11:52

I'd love to see a poll of who would vote what on this forum, let's see just how many UKIP, BNP ,LABOUR ,CONSERVS e.t.c there really are! Leave the comments out, just a poll

Wonder if OCUK has the balls

Gilly · 31 May 2013 at 11:56

deuse said:
So I asked Citation needed. So lets hear it.

You need to be more specific.

Neil79 said:
I'd love to see a poll of who would vote what on this forum, let's see just how many UKIP, BNP ,LABOUR ,CONSERVS e.t.c there really are! Leave the comments out, just a poll

Wonder if OCUK has the balls

You mean the general populace?

arctine · 31 May 2013 at 11:58

robgmun said:
I have serious problems with Gilly posting his views on the thread and moderating it at the same time. It's obvious he has a bias and he is free to express it. But to threaten to close it because he sees views he doesn't agree with is distrubing to me.

Gilly, by all means post, but by posting you views i feel you should forfit you right to moderate in this thread and get someone else to be the mod here.

I got suspended for calling the biggest bigot to post in the thread a ****.

He's not biased.

Neil79 · 31 May 2013 at 11:59

Gilly said:
You mean the general populace?

Hmm well it's more of a forum thing I guess, though some news sites have used polls as a general populace ref before. I'd just like to see for myself at least, what people are or would be voting for on this forum.

More than likely conserv would be top, but who knows