Woolwich serious incident

Personally, none of the parties tell the truth and that much is certain. Every party has had it's scams and dodgy members. There is no right side of the lines because each party has treated specific people in a bad way, they are all scum.

For the good of the people, doesn't stand true anymore!
 
So according to the ultra-liberal mulch-culturalists here, UKIP are a racist party. Why then do you think is it that they aren't villified in the press in the same way that the BNP are? I mean Farage gets invited on Question Time, HIGNFY, 10 O'clock Live without issue. Nick Griffin has only been on QT once and it was major news.
 
scorza said:
So according to the ultra-liberal mulch-culturalists here, UKIP are a racist party. Why then do you think is it that they aren't villified in the press in the same way that the BNP are? I mean Farage gets invited on Question Time, HIGNFY, 10 O'clock Live without issue. Nick Griffin has only been on QT once and it was major news.
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by that same token, why is ANJEM choudhary who most people hate been on so many programs? clearly the media doesn't think he is that bad?
 
scorza said:
So according to the ultra-liberal mulch-culturalists here, UKIP are a racist party. Why then do you think is it that they aren't villified in the press in the same way that the BNP are? I mean Farage gets invited on Question Time, HIGNFY, 10 O'clock Live without issue. Nick Griffin has only been on QT once and it was major news.
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They're more sly with it.
 
scorza said:
So according to the ultra-liberal mulch-culturalists here, UKIP are a racist party. Why then do you think is it that they aren't villified in the press in the same way that the BNP are?
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There are no ultra-liberals here (that have identified themselves) so who do you expect to answer that?
 
How about you put forward a definition of "ultra-left-liberal".

"Liberalism (from the Latin liberalis) is a political philosophy or worldview founded on ideas of liberty and equality.

Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but generally they support ideas such as free and fair elections, civil rights, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, free trade, and private property."

I'm not even sure "extreme" really fits very well into this definition.

In regards to extreme left-wing ideology - well, again -

"In left-right politics, left-wing describes an outlook or specific position that accepts or supports social equality, often in opposition to social hierarchy and social inequality.

It typically involves a concern for those in society who are perceived as disadvantaged relative to others and an assumption that there are unjustified inequalities that need to be reduced or abolished."

If I'm an extreme liberal-left person because I strongly believe in equality, in combating unjustified inequalities, oppose social hierarchy and social inequality, support free and fair elections, civil rights, freedom of the press & freedom of religion then yes I fit that definition (mostly, I tend to disagree with most liberals on economic issues).

This may be a stab in the dark, but I'd hazard a guess that most people who use terms like "OMG ULTRA LEFTIST LIBERALS" don't actually know anything about liberalism or left-wing ideology & are just parroting something they saw on Fox news.
 
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How about you put forward a definition of "ultra-left-liberal".

"Liberalism (from the Latin liberalis) is a political philosophy or worldview founded on ideas of liberty and equality.

Liberals espouse a wide array of views depending on their understanding of these principles, but generally they support ideas such as free and fair elections, civil rights, freedom of the press, freedom of religion, free trade, and private property."

I'm not even sure "extreme" really fits very well into this definition.

In regards to extreme left-wing ideology - well, again -

"In left-right politics, left-wing describes an outlook or specific position that accepts or supports social equality, often in opposition to social hierarchy and social inequality.

It typically involves a concern for those in society who are perceived as disadvantaged relative to others and an assumption that there are unjustified inequalities that need to be reduced or abolished."

If I'm an extreme liberal-left person because I strongly believe in equality, in combating unjustified inequalities, oppose social hierarchy and social inequality, support free and fair elections, civil rights, freedom of the press & freedom of religion then yes I fit that definition (mostly, I tend to disagree with most liberals on economic issues).
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Ultra-liberalist :rolleyes: You're wrong cos you don't hate darkies and you want foxes overrunning the country :mad:
 
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