Woolwich serious incident

Xordium · 19 Jul 2013 at 16:38

hurfdurf said:
War is hell

Suarez7 · 19 Jul 2013 at 16:40

jsmoke said:
Prison is a bundle of laughs, like a hardcore version of school but you don't get to go home at half three.

Speaking from experience or?

Tingtangmakadingdong · 19 Jul 2013 at 16:41

XeNoN89 said:
Oh what a shame.

This

ElliorR · 19 Jul 2013 at 16:42

jsmoke said:
Prison is a bundle of laughs, like a hardcore version of school but you don't get to go home at half three.

Having a fag behind the bikesheds takes on a whole new meaning as well.

StriderX · 19 Jul 2013 at 16:50

How can you...arrest someone who is already in jail?

What is this magic?

arknor · 19 Jul 2013 at 16:53

StriderX said:
How can you...arrest someone who is already in jail?

What is this magic?

It's more fun to arrest them as they walk out the prison gates but I guess this guy will never see the outside ever again

Captain · 19 Jul 2013 at 17:04

Give it a few weeks and he will be dead.

Xordium · 19 Jul 2013 at 17:34

Clov!s said:
Give it a few weeks and he will be dead.

It's a good way of reducing expenditure in the prison system.

Freakbro · 19 Jul 2013 at 17:38

And yet in every other prison thread GD accuses prisons of being holiday camps :confused:

Though saying that, you can probably easily get beaten up and lose your front teeth from a weekend in Skeggy Butlins

Jokester · 19 Jul 2013 at 17:40

Prison guards did it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-23374239

Hopefully he'll be subject to more restraint in the future.

CREATIVE!11 · 19 Jul 2013 at 17:45

what I find so funny is everyone tries to pretend to be civilised etc fair trial yada yada

Really British public do not care and could care less if he was beaten to a pulp tbh. I know I don't, putrid human being.

Hyburnate · 19 Jul 2013 at 17:45

Jokester said:
Prison guards did it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-23374239

Hopefully he'll be subject to more restraint in the future.

So are the police going to pursue an assault case about it?

@above Everyone deserves true justice, if there was wrong doing and it wasn't investigated because the general consensus don't like the person and it then further led to a death of another prisoner then what's going to happen, of course I'm talking way into the very unlikely however if the police are pursuing this then it needs to be done otherwise we'll have the EU on our backs.

Longbow · 19 Jul 2013 at 17:58

Hyburnate said:
So are the police going to pursue an assault case about it?

Where does it say that? :confused:

Someone was hurt as a result of someone else's actions, that warrants an investigation to determine if it was criminal or not, that's what the police do.

Efour · 19 Jul 2013 at 18:05

Clov!s said:
Give it a few weeks and he will be dead.

im suprised hes not already.

Freakbro · 19 Jul 2013 at 18:05

CREATIVE!11 said:
what I find so funny is everyone tries to pretend to be civilised etc fair trial yada yada

'pretend' is the appropriate word there, society has always just had the thinnest veneer of civilised behaviour papered over our natural animal instincts.

As shown quite eloquently by GD at times.

Hyburnate said:
So are the police going to pursue an assault case about it?

Even if they do investigate, I think we can guess what the chances of any charges being brought are, even if due.

I'd be interested to hear how likely it is to have 2 teeth knocked out from 'approved restraint techniques', teeth don't come out that easily...

Xordium · 19 Jul 2013 at 18:23

Freakbro said:
I'd be interested to hear how likely it is to have 2 teeth knocked out from 'approved restraint techniques', teeth don't come out that easily...

Have you ever restrained a violent person who is intent on doing you harm whilst trying to maintain a safe environment for everyone else?

rotters · 19 Jul 2013 at 18:31

Xordium said:
Have you ever restrained a violent person who is intent on doing you harm whilst trying to maintain a safe environment for everyone else?

Yes but luckily we are able to use chemicals too. Several times infact, ive never knocked someone teeth out, or caused any other injury, nearly broke a wrist once, but all was ok.

twist3d0n3 · 19 Jul 2013 at 18:33

Suarez7 said:
Speaking from experience or?

ask him about his jimmy saville-esq encounter

Destination · 19 Jul 2013 at 18:35

Xordium said:
Have you ever restrained a violent person who is intent on doing you harm whilst trying to maintain a safe environment for everyone else?

Very flipping difficult without sitting on them, or having your knee on their neck, and their wrists bound behind their back. That likely isn't particularly approved.

Smacking his mouth off the ground might have occurred during the restraint. Or it might have been a nightstick to calm him down, who knows, no doubt an investigation will find out.

Castiel · 19 Jul 2013 at 19:19

Xordium said:
Have you ever restrained a violent person who is intent on doing you harm whilst trying to maintain a safe environment for everyone else?

Yeah, plenty of times. Cant say I have ever knocked someone's teeth out, but certainly they sustain injuries, sometimes significant ones, broke a man's jaw once...it is mainly due to their own actions rather than anyone else's though. The investigation is a matter of procedure and as long as the force was reasonable to the circumstances then they have nothing to worry about.