World Cup Hosts 2018

I've never heard of that rule to be honest, and it sounds like even a half decent lawyer would get that aquitted no problem if it's true. I'm assuming the person has went home to Brazil in that example, then HMRC have no jurisdiction on the earnings of a foreign national outside of the UK.
 
So does this mean we can cancel our friendly game against Thailand next year as they didnt vote for us?:D
The whole bidding process seems to stink, it cant be down to the actual bid as the England one was according to Fifa better than those who won or got further, cant be down to the presentation as even sepp blatter reckoned the english one was one of the best. So what is it down to then? If Fifa wanted the WC to goto a nation that hadnt hosted one before and one it will help develop the country why not say that years before we started our bid? Surely a no thanks England we dont want to take it to a country rich with football history and the infastructure to even it host it today, we want to take it to somewhere thats not had it or doesnt have a footballing history so we can spread the world of football around the globe. If that was the case then we should off packed our bags and left it to the countries that fitted the bill of what Fifa wanted and not spent all that money and time making a bid we never had a chance of winning.
 
One More Solo said:
I hadn't thought of it that way, that makes perfect sense. I'd assume that the two votes for England would have been from ourselves and Chuck Blazer, the American on the executive-committee. The Holland/Belgium bid would have had one from the Belgian and perhaps either the French or German member in both rounds, with two tactical votes. That's pretty shocking behaviour (though completely legal) but shows the extent to which they wanted England out. I wonder who Geoff Thompson voted for after England? I also wonder if Thompson had any contact with the English bid team after voting but prior to the announcement as he would obviously have been aware that England were out of the running, perhaps explaining the generally depressed look around the team before anything had been announced.
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England's other vote (assuming our own Geoff Thompson resisted the lure of Vlad's Rouble) came from an African delegate, one who was named in the Panorama documentary lol.
 
Giving it to Qatar is a complete joke. It'll become a vulgar spectacle like everything else in that part of the world.
 
Simon said:
Bids for the 2026 world cup are in, bookies have Narnia as favourites, followed by middle earth, atlantis, hogwarts and sesame street hot on their tails!
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I honestly don't fancy our chances if we get in a group with the hobbits.

I think we should do our best not to qualify for the next couple of world cups out of protest.
 
Tummy said:
Russia and Quatar both fit with what FIFA are doing though?

Taking football to "lesser footballing" countries, in an effort to help spread the game.

I sense butthurt on an epic scale.

I'm dissapointed that England didn't get the bid, I'd have loved to see a World Cup here, but I think it's half a dozen of one and 6 of the other or however it's said.

English media are quick to build us up the line "we never excpected to get it", sorry it's not how the media came across. The BBC going on about how they'd pulled out big names and had put lots of effort in. Does this mean other countries didn't put effort in? Didn't pull out big names? *remember names are relativie to where you live*

English media didn't help, people talking out against FIFA can't of helped this includes the F.A.

The Premier league has for a long time not being too liked by FIFA has it? I mean it's hyped to the max and made out to be the best ect ect yet the English team continually fail and the clubs take a bit of a hammering from big wigs at FIFA / UEFA.

I also, don't think there is as much to gain in spreading the game here then it is in Russia / Quatar (I do believe this is a big part of the reason)

I'm not saying FIFA don't take brides ect ect, look at Jack Warner haha

Just, I'm not annoyed and butthurting and raging at the Russians ect ect

I'm just a little bit dissapointed, 2030 is our next chance... that's a long time away, I'd like to see our domestic problems sorted before we get a world cup.

o/ I've had a drink.
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Just ignore the silly little troll as he hates everything about England...so one does wonder why hes so bothered about England losing the WC...hes made it pretty clear in a few threads already...so much so that he wants to move to Canada and become an ice trucker.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18212892&highlight=t3kno_tr0n|c

And then his true colours show in this thread: http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18212826&highlight=t3kno_tr0n|c
 
Tummy said:
I mean in terms of the developement of the game ect ect...

Who the **** plays / knows decent players / teams from Quatar.

Spreading the game is a good thing.
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Indeed...such epic butthurts in here...hilarious but pathetic at the same time.

Its a shame England didnt get the WC...would have been good if we could have hosted one as we havent since '66 which is a bloody long time.

But i think it will be good for Russia and Qatar and their footballing programme now that they have the WC....i hope both will be a huge success because the SA WC sucked major balls majority of the time.
 
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It would have been nice to have it here since football is so popular, but we don't need it. There are other countries that would benefit from it more than us. It'll be a really good thing for Russia politically, economically and for the people. Plus it also shows that Russia is finally starting to try and integrate with the rest of the world. The exposure will do them good.

I say good for them.
 
Jonny69 said:
Plus it also shows that Russia is finally starting to try and integrate with the rest of the world. The exposure will do them good.
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It'll do no more to show that Russia is starting to integrate with the rest of the world than giving the Olympic games to Nazi Germany did.
 
Grauniad said:
Andy Anson, the chief executive of the failed England World Cup 2018 bid, has said there is no point in the country bidding for the tournament again until Fifa changes.

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Hugh Robertson [minister for sport and the Olympics], told Talksport radio that a rumour in Zurich suggested only three members of the Fifa executive committee had asked to see the technical report on the English bid.

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Anson said he had been told that Blatter, the Fifa president, had spoken to executive committee members of the "evil of the media" just before the vote.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/dec/03/world-cup-fifa-sepp-blatter

Bunch of crooks. Does a free press harm the actual game of football or even the World Cup tournament itself? Does it ****. Does it harm a collection of pampered executives intent on lining their own pockets? Oh, you bet it does.
 
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I wonder how Spain are taking the loss?

Obviously their bid was technically very similar to ours - established football nation, most of the infrastructure already in place, passionate about football, very good commercially - so it would be interesting to see if they are miffed at all.

Edit: just found a Guardian article on the subject
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/dec/02/world-cup-2018-spain-portugal

Writing in the sports daily Marca, Roberto Palomar stated: "If the world chose Russia over Spain and Portugal then maybe we should all emigrate to another planet. If they would rather play in new stadiums that look like spaceships than in the Bernabéu or the Camp Nou, then we have all gone mad. Fifa has committed a mistake, a big, big mistake."
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Weebull said:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/dec/03/world-cup-fifa-sepp-blatter

Bunch of crooks. Does a free press harm the actual game of football or even the World Cup tournament itself? Does it ****. Does it harm a collection of pampered executives intent on lining their own pockets? Oh, you bet it does.
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I suppose we should be happy that our media do still ask questions of mammoth corporations like FIFA, I would be more worried about the state of our press if the BBC had just brushed it all under the carpet in order to not upset them.
 
I'm still wondering why they picked David Beckham, and two posh toffs to "represent us".

One a footballer who doesn't play in this country anymore, why not pick a black English player and a women's player? Why not pick a player who's actually playing in this country?

Cameron, doesn't know what football is. He's so upper class it's unbelieveable.

Harry or was it the other one? ... Okay future King of England, but do you really have anything to do with football?

Why not represent the average football fan, pick out a man from the streets, a working man who can express how much it would mean to him.

meh.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
UK tax policies will greatly affect bids will it not?

aren't you supposed to pay tax to the UK's tax man on all your earnings made from competition in the UK and on all future earnings that could be accounted to competing within the UK?
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It is true but we've made exceptions in the past to be able to host sporting events. I'm pretty sure similar assurances were provided for the WC bid as well.
 
Tummy said:
Pretty sure it's one of the requirements to host a World Cup you don't tax FIFA :p
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Basically yup, that and you have to waive a bunch of money-laundering laws for them. All so they can block book hotel rooms, ban unlicensed traders, and over-price tickets, all for their own personal profit. Fabulous.
 
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