World first QD-OLED monitor from Dell and Samsung (34 inch Ultrawide 175hz)

cuke2u said:
Owners of the Samsung are reporting positive things about the tv. It's a non story as properly setup issues are eliminated.
LG OLED also automatically increase their brightness when presented with a test grid. All nothing new...
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issue can't be calibrated out bad luck. As for the LG comment, the LG OLED much more closely matches the reference monitor

Of course owners will say positive thing, they spent so much money on it so you think they will now say they were wrong nope. And they bought it because they obviously enjoy fake over saturated screens and like Vincent said that's fine people can use what they want and most average joes do prefer fake over saturated screens that's just the reality
 
Grim5 said:
issue can't be calibrated out bad luck. As for the LG comment, the LG OLED much more closely matches the reference monitor

Of course owners will say positive thing, they spent so much money on it so you think they will now say they were wrong nope. And they bought it because they obviously enjoy fake over saturated screens and like Vincent said that's fine people can use what they want and most average joes do prefer fake over saturated screens that's just the reality
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It is easy though, LG OLED for tv, movies and console gaming. Alienware QD-OLED for browsing and playing PC games. Best of both worlds. That’s what I have anyways :D

Oh and I could easily sell my Alienware for £1100 now and make £300+ profit, but I am keeping it as I really like it. I have another one on the way which I will sell for profit. If all works out the Alienware would have cost me £450 in the end and I will easily get that for it in 3 years, so basically free ;)

I mean tell me of one other monitor that is better for gaming? As you so like to quote Vincent all the time, let me quote him to you…

Alienware AW3423DW QD-OLED - The Best PC Gaming Monitor. PERIOD.
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I said the same. There is nothing else that can touch this monitor on the market right now. Visually and for performance and obviously price, even at RRP.

On the note of fan noise, I have noticed that the last week the fan has been less audible, like as if the bearings have settled/bedded in now. The monitor is on for 20 hours at a stretch most days as mentioned before as I WFH and then edit on the same machine too so it has certainly had some serious usage 7 days a week typically regardless of me being at the desk or not as the black screen screen saver kicks in after 5 mins anyway.

Grim5 said:
issue can't be calibrated out bad luck. As for the LG comment, the LG OLED much more closely matches the reference monitor

Of course owners will say positive thing, they spent so much money on it so you think they will now say they were wrong nope. And they bought it because they obviously enjoy fake over saturated screens and like Vincent said that's fine people can use what they want and most average joes do prefer fake over saturated screens that's just the reality
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Hmmmm.

I think you will find that many owners who have had issues have complained and either got them sorted with replacements, or are going to and for the smaller issues have workarounds already in place via tweaks or tools in Windows. And anyway, many of us could buy and sell for some tidy profit and then buy whatever monitor we wanted up to reasonable 4 figures if desired - But as already mentioned, there isn't another monitor that can beat this by any stretch of the imagination so the statement is quite fake news really. If there was a model other than this that offered a fair competition, then sure... But there isn't, and there won't be for quite some time.

I know I will be getting a 38" QD-OLED ultrawide when one comes out, but until then I'll stick by this.

As for fake over saturation, well year OLED is vibrant by default, luckily this monitor has an sRGB mode dedicated to natural colours that are exactly for those who prefer... natural colours.
 
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Grim5 said:
Latest Vincent video just dropped, this finally explains why comparison videos make the QD-OLED look blown out to me. I was told it's just the problem with the camera but Vincent here has a different story

Basically the QD-OLED is way off target for HDR brightness and color accuracy in real content, it's way too bright and has a high delta on color accuracy. The QD-OLED is also adding artificial brightness to some objects in HDR that fall outside the creators intent therefore creating an inaccurate image, it does this by manipulating the PQ curve.


Like Vincent says here, you guys (and all these wannabe YouTube reviewers) have been totally Bamboozled with Samsung's tricks once again :D


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Uhh, that's only in regards to the Samsung S95B TV...

Vincent already reviewed the Alienware monitor and he didn't find any issues like that on it, additionally the color accuracy was good out of the box unlike the S95B. See here for the segment on color accuracy:
https://youtu.be/lNG2s0yPIDY?t=55

Rawr said:
That video only mentions the new Samsung tv anyway. Unless he checks the Dell QD-OLED for the same issue it's not guaranteed to have it since Dell will have most likely been the ones to have control over calibration/brightness etc on the monitor.
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It would have came up as he did test the HDR extensively. Nothing inherently wrong with the QD-OLED panel, these are decisions Samsung Electronics (maker of the TV) made, likely to give them an edge over LG on the showroom floors. They could have easily added an accurate preset on the TV but simply chose not to, who knows why.
 
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Any news on any 49" super wide (5120x1440) getting this magic anytime soon? I know it won't be cheap, but I already have a 34" on my sim rig (which I use for casual gaming too) and don't have the space for triples, so 49" is my target (odyssey g9 neo) but will wait if something is just around the corner..
 
Correct me if I'm wrong but is the AW QD-oled not the closest we have to the £30k oled sony monitor? The Samsung QD-oleds main problem seems to come down to its calibration, tone mapping choice etc. of samsung. All in all, the tech itself i.e. QD-oled looks to be better in pretty much every way to lgs oled?

TNA said:
It is easy though, LG OLED for tv, movies and console gaming. Alienware QD-OLED for browsing and playing PC games. Best of both worlds. That’s what I have anyways :D

Oh and I could easily sell my Alienware for £1100 now and make £300+ profit, but I am keeping it as I really like it. I have another one on the way which I will sell for profit. If all works out the Alienware would have cost me £450 in the end and I will easily get that for it in 3 years, so basically free ;)

I mean tell me of one other monitor that is better for gaming? As you so like to quote Vincent all the time, let me quote him to you…
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Only reason I don't use the AW for films and tv shows is down to size and also the fact that I want to lye back and chill when watching content.... Which is a shame as the AW QD-oled is just "superior" to the lg oled in:

- motion
- dark area/shadow detail
- uniformity
- lack of any tinting and vignette
- better hdr performance all round

I do much prefer the anti glare coating of the AW to pure glossy of my LG too, just far usable without even needing to faff with closing curtains over, angles etc.

Funny thing is, as per usual, it's the people who don't own said products stating there are issues and how awful said product is, a common trend on these forums :cry: Maybe grim can buy one and do some testing and if it is crap, smash it with his hammer :cry: What's rather amusing is the narrative has now changed, originally apparently "qd-oled" looked washed out in the comparisons:

Grim5 said:
That photo of the husky just pops more on your lg oled thanbthe Alienware - the Alienware continue to look full to me in any comparison- must be that anti glare coating
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But now all of a sudden it is "over saturated"? :D

Would be interesting to see a comparison between the samsung qd-oled and the aw qd-oled to see which one is technically better.... Also the inevitable lg c2 vs aw qd-oled video.

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Before I move it ro the office some quick side by sides with the x34p:

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Last one is Rush on Netflix in 1080p.

There was a lot of noise made about reflections but the AW easily outdoes the x34p here as well.

No point showing games or HDR as it's a just a massacre. Even more so than the image quality difference are the motion differences. The lack of blur and motion clarity is way more impactful than the IQ differences you'll notice. The motion clarity is something you'll appreciate each time as well while you get used to the better picture pretty quickly.

Due to how exposure works, irl, the x34p is about 5% darker in person while the AW is about 5% lighter but it's immaterial to the differences in quality between the two panels.
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But but but.... the blacks are suppose to be awful in bright rooms and no better than IPS!!!! :mad:




:cry:

Some good comparisons here:


https://caperonfire.tumblr.com/post/682614068845133824/aw3821dw-aw3423dw
 
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I really want to give Grim the benefit of the doubt and say he took the time to watch Vincent's video, understood the underlying problem and is offering this as a warning to those who might be interested in the Samsung S95B after their great experiences with the AW. Right @Grim5 ?
 
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Tried playing some Deep Rock Galactic on this last night - running perfectly at 175hz with HDR on... all I can say is wow, even though the graphics aren't exactly realistic, it almost felt like a window I could reach through and touch it...
 
Nexus18 said:
Funny thing is, as per usual, it's the people who don't own said products stating there are issues and how awful said product is, a common trend on these forums :cry: Maybe grim can buy one and do some testing and if it is crap, smash it with his hammer :cry: What's rather amusing is the narrative has now changed, originally apparently "qd-oled" looked washed out in the comparisons:
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:cry::cry::cry:
 
Robert896r1 said:
I really want to give Grim the benefit of the doubt and say he took the time to watch Vincent's video, understood the underlying problem and is offering this as a warning to those who might be interested in the Samsung S95B after their great experiences with the AW. Right @Grim5 ?
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Right… :cry:

Seems we have likes enabled with the upgrade of the site, just gave the last two posts a like :D
 
TNA said:
:cry::cry::cry:
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Yeah a lot of hysterical rubbish being spouted by some trolls just because Vincent's video, some are accusing Samsung of cheating. How they can be cheating when we all know about it beggars belief.
Personally I think Vincent has done a hatchet job and gone about his review in totally the wrong way as a professional tester.
If I didn't have a excellent tv I'd buy the S95B but as I don't then I'll probably purchase this monitor. Just need to work out how to get the discount..
 
For anyone curious this cuke2u fella has been running around various AV related forums spewing the same nonsense. At no point, in any post, has he broken down any of the technical merits of the issue, demonstrated an ability to read calibration data or even understand the underlying issue. It's just verbal diarrhea against facts demonstrated by *multiple* people with decades on experience and insights.

In the main, this place has been noise free so I'm just throwing out an early red flag to avoid getting trapped into creating noise pollution in anotherwise productive thread.
 
If you want HDR in your non hdr games, use SpecialK and not 'auto hdr.' SK is really well done and actively developed. The biggest drawback is that as of now, the recording tools I've tested so far, shadowplay/xbox dvr/obs are not able to capture the HDR metadata when using SK. The capture software hooks the render pipeline before the SK injection takes place and for the time being, that can't be fixed.

Outside of that limitation, it works great: https://wiki.special-k.info/
 
Robert896r1 said:
For anyone curious this cuke2u fella has been running around various AV related forums spewing the same nonsense. At no point, in any post, has he broken down any of the technical merits of the issue, demonstrated an ability to read calibration data or even understand the underlying issue. It's just verbal diarrhea against facts demonstrated by *multiple* people with decades on experience and insights.

In the main, this place has been noise free so I'm just throwing out an early red flag to avoid getting trapped into creating noise pollution in anotherwise productive thread.
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However I've never disagreed with the findings, just the methods used and the hysterical cheating accusations. But it's off topic for here so will keep my discussion to the Alienware monitor in future...
 
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