***World of Warcraft : Warlords of Draenor***

So, demon hunters, South seas, burning legion and emerald dream..? Seems as if they are throwing everything at it in the hopes of boosting numbers . Feels very end of game
 
As long as artifacts are separate to raiding it will be all good - I've wanted a seperate progression path outside of 'raid or die' for years! Oh and stop telling story inside raiding and get rid of lfr too - it's bad for sub numbers & game longevity
 
seems that way Purdy. I cant see these key weapons that you will go off on a quest line to obtain, then go through all the work of levelling them.

Cant see that just being a cosmetic addition, id assume it will be the "got to have" weapon for progression etc, as always we know too little at this stage.

Would be interesting to see expected release date
 
If this artifact weapon is all everyone has ill be incredibly disappointed, rest sounds decent so far

I don't know where they are going with this idea... Is there no other weapons in the expansion? It would seem so as they said this is the first thing you will do - go on a quest to get your weapon... and spend the rest of the expac enhancing it



P.s. Added new thread with some info - will update it as the minutes/hours/days go on
 
Seperate PvP talent trees that unlock with honor?

I thought the whole mentality was remove the gear disparity in PVP so now there will be an unlock disparity between a seasoned pvp'er and a new guy hmmm
 
yeah its only an early glimpse, no doubt that beta will coincide with blizzcon.

Need to see what they want to give us to do with end game, so far looks like garrison will be replaced with the artifact journey, class halls need more info. Either way my twitter is now full of wow spam so time to ignore for a few days :p
 
So anyone want to start a betting pool on what gets cut before live or never gets added into the game as patches are added?

I just cant believe anything they say these days, a lot of problems not fixed from what they have said so far and I'm most concerned about Artifacts. These are a level above legendaries which that everyone up until the last two expacs were lucky to see drop let alone own.

Does no one think its stupid, its like the legendary cloak and ring on steroids, its insane to me and further making power and loot a joke :/ They also haven't done anything about sorting Professions which are a joke these days.

Sigh, what a disappointment.
 
yeah its only an early glimpse, no doubt that beta will coincide with blizzcon.

Need to see what they want to give us to do with end game, so far looks like garrison will be replaced with the artifact journey, class halls need more info. Either way my twitter is now full of wow spam so time to ignore for a few days :p

Class halls and the artefact weapon together are the new garrisons I think.
 
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