World Trade Center Dust Contains Evidence of Explosives

[Dj_Jestar]

and I always maintain...secrets cannot be kept..governments are too big and too unwieldy

if they cannot keep secret the fgact that the then president of the usa shagged somebody in the oval office, how does anybody expect to keep secret the fact that the govt had thousands of their citizens murdered..it simply wouldnt happen

hell we can even find out when anti terror raids are going to take place because some numpty cannot put a cover sheet on his report..yet people think giant secrets are kept from the public

The "shagging" secret was lost when she told the press.

 

[Sankari]

I'm not sure. I think it was you, but the post is like 2 or so years old. So i cant remember.

Definitely sounds like something from one of the earlier threads, but it wouldn't have been me.

 

[Spektor]

Originally i would have thought more into the explosives in the tower scenario.

But since people have started claiming things from remote controlled planes, HAARP, alien laser beams, nuclear bomb under the towers and so on, I've change my opinion.

Surprisingly it was something Evan said "Isn't it more believable that the American government knew about the attacks and let them happen, rather then it being a inside job?" That is now my opinion on this.

Why do you insist on something sinister lurking behind such events? you went with conspiracy set of garbage #1, thought that was too nutty, even for you... so settled for conspiracy set of garbage #2? At no time in any of that was any real evidence presented and verified... you just liked the idea of it. Then you wonder why people demolish your threads

 

[Morba]

Of course not, all the home movies, CNN, FOX footage etc were all fakes produced by the NWO.

our alien overlords are impressive!

 

[4T5]

*Reaches for Tinfoil stash*

 

[spitzoid]

It was the government what done it, like.

 

[Le_Petit_Lapin]

Out of interest, what exactly would happen if it was found to be a Government operation?

 

[aslco]

Out of interest, what exactly would happen if it was found to be a Government operation?

East Timor would send alll their troops into the US

 

[dowie]

I don't mind people voicing their opinions but there's no need to be such a jackass about it. Dowie you have completely proved my post about how threads like this often turn into a thread were it seems some people are 6 years old again. "OMG YOUR ALL IDIOTS! I'M RIGHT SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP!"

Well its an idiotic thread with an idiotic premise so what exactly do you expect. Do you actually want people who have a mediocre of common sense to pander to the numpties and entertain thier silly fantasys/conspiracies.

I think the only jack asses are people who start threads like this and spread false rumours about a tragic incident in which many people lost thier lives.

There is absolutely nothing worth entertaining in any of these conspiracy theories and yes I fully admit I do have utter contempt for the people who do entertain and spread them.

I wish people would just engage thier brains a little instead of spreadining inane nonsense about the internet. Reading and giving a level of credibility to this stuff isn't being open minded, it is being gullible. Conspiracy theorist tend to be the most closed minded people as they will often ignore the major evidence, established course of events in favour of the very improbably based on very flimsy evidence or hearsay.

This stuff gets spread about, people start buying into stuff they heard, rumours etc... and the various thousands of people who lost close relatives are then left with doubt or have the memories of thier loved ones basically insulted. Do you think the relatives of those killed in the pentagon appreciate the retards spreading the rumour that it wasn't a plane crashing into thier building that killed them but it was fellow service men as part of a secret conspiracy.

Yes this stuff is retarded, no it isn't even worthy of a proper debate - pretty much every conspiracy theory regarding 911 has been debunked already if you care to do a bit of reading.

 

[SexyGreyFox]

I think the only jack asses are people who start threads like this

Thanks

I'm one of the biggest CT haters on here but I know nothing of the physics in the report so wanted 'experts' on here to to explain why its rubbish.

 

[4T5]

Thanks

I'm one of the biggest CT haters on here but I know nothing of the physics in the report so wanted 'experts' on here to to explain why its rubbish.

It's rubbish because the OcUK collective don't stand for such nonsence.

 

[Zip]

Thermite.

Rust+Aluminium. Not too hard to find those 2 substances anywhere in life TBH

 

[SexyGreyFox]

Thermite.

Rust+Aluminium. Not too hard to find those 2 substances anywhere in life TBH

But isn't the report stating that this isn't the normal thermite found everywhere but super thermite which is completely different?

 

[Zip]

But isn't the report stating that this isn't the normal thermite found everywhere but super thermite which is completely different?

Ill go have a read and look now

 

[SexyGreyFox]

Ill go have a read and look now

I think a lot of people have just read 'thermite' and not what these scientists have found.

 

[aardvark]

But isn't the report stating that this isn't the normal thermite found everywhere but super thermite which is completely different?

well, its sort of tacked on at the end - i don't see any real evidence or comparison with the manufactured superthermite - they compare DSC's and ignition temperature but many factors may effect that, and its not what i would call convincing evidence.

 

[Zip]

But isn't the report stating that this isn't the normal thermite found everywhere but super thermite which is completely different?

REgular stuff

Thermite is a pyrotechnic composition of a metal powder and a metal oxide, which produces an aluminothermic reaction known as a thermite reaction. It is not explosive, but can create short bursts of extremely high temperatures focused on a very small area for a short period of time.

Thermites can be a diverse class of compositions. The fuels are often aluminium, magnesium, calcium, titanium, zinc, silicon, and boron. The oxidizers can be boron(III) oxide, silicon(IV) oxide, chromium(III) oxide, manganese(IV) oxide, iron(III) oxide, iron(II,III) oxide, copper(II) oxide, and lead(II,II,IV) oxide. [1]

The most common thermite is aluminium-iron(III) oxide.

Metastable intermolecular composites (MIC), also called super-thermites, or superthermites, are pyrotechnic compositions containing an oxidizer and a reducing agent which undergoes a very powerful exothermic reaction when heated to a critical temperature. Superthermites are variants of thermite compositions but are intimately mixed on the nanometer scale. MICs are a type of reactive materials investigated for military use, as well as in applications in propellants, explosives, and pyrotechnics.

What separates MICs from traditional thermites is that the oxidizer and a reducing agent, normally iron oxide and aluminum are not a fine powder, but rather nanoparticles. This dramatically increases the reactivity relative to micrometre-sized powder thermite. As the mass transport mechanisms that slow down the burning rates of traditional thermites are not so important at these scales, the reactions become kinetically controlled and much faster.

The Miltary use TH3

Thermate-TH3 (in military use) is 68.7% thermite, 29.0% barium nitrate, 2.0% sulfur and 0.3% binder (such as PBAN). As both thermite and thermate are notoriously difficult to ignite, initiating the reaction normally requires trained human supervision and sometimes persistent effort.

Still stuff you would find in an urban environment.

 

[dowie]

nm

 

[SexyGreyFox]

REgular stuff

Still stuff you would find in an urban environment.

Fair enough

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Well you didn't exaclty make that clear when you simply posted the article and made a statement that some might find it interesting.

I think a lot found it interesting because it went to 6 pages and made for good debate to put the CT'ers to bed (although this won't happen).

 

[Glaucus]

what I don't get is the report. it goes ohh man made nano thermite, then in the conclusion. It says these are widely found in the environment and can be caused by welding and other such activities. which one is it. Lab made nano particles or normal particles you would find anywhere. It really does sound like a stupid report.