World Trade Center Dust Contains Evidence of Explosives

Rroff said:
Nothing that couldn't have been faked up, if your really going to go to the lengths of a full blown, sophisticated conspiracy.
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So all the people who went missing where just taken out to the desert and shot? or where they all secret agents from birth?

And throughout all this not one objector? one whistle-blower? one sleeper agent one super 007 spy infiltrating the evil ranks of President Bush Blofeld's secret army?
 
Rroff said:
Nothing that couldn't have been faked up, if your really going to go to the lengths of a full blown, sophisticated conspiracy.
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********.

Go and tell the airlines that their planes carried no passengers or crew that day. Go and tell the airport security staff that nobody boarded those planes. Go and tell all those people who lost friends, colleagues and family members that they didn't really die in a plane crash. Go and tell them that the body parts recovered and subsequently identified by DNA were not the body parts of their friends, colleagues and family members. Go and tell them that the phone calls they shared in the final moments were simply fakes. Go and explain to them what "really" happened to their friends, colleagues and families (er, where did they all go?)

Hell, explain it to us here on the thread! I'm just dying to know. :rolleyes:

You see how desperately illogical this all becomes when you attempt to deny what simply cannot be denied?
 
Its not like you really need complex conspiracies for an alternative way of bringing the building down...

On large buildings like that companies are coming and going, renovating, etc. all the time, generally over the years security and maintenance becomes more and more tardy.

I don't see it that incredible that a shell company or companies could rent several floors over a 6 month or so period, and even destabalish the building over weeks or months prior to the event happening, so that at the right time it would take a lot less effort to blow the final straws.
 
What missing passengers?

This is the problem people are so preconditioned to society norms they can't think outside teh box.

Would it be so hard for a government agency to fake up some people even fake whole families for the reports? it would take some effort but even whole flights could be faked up. Its quite conceivable to even use a whole load of people who are quiet innocent to whats happening and never come to any harm.

The biggest issue is someone leaking information, etc. but for every event thats been leaked to the public you can pretty much guarantee theres been atleast another 1 or 2 covert ops that the public is completely ignorant of.


Personally I'm not of the opinion thats what happened, but its not beyond the realm of credability.
 
Actually faking up any individual aspect of this whole event would be trivial, its bringing it all together without anyone external to the "plot" noticing thats fiendishly complicated... but I don't see it as completely beyond the capabilities of a well funded, experienced, agency with high level government access.
 
Rroff said:
Would it be so hard for a government agency to fake up some people even fake whole families for the reports?
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I don't know the figures here but lets say there were a total of 4 x 100 passengers on each plane, that's 400 families who the Government have made up who all attended funerals and spoke to papers, TV & radio.
These were real people who spoke to the media and I reckon at least one of these actors would have slipped up by now.

That really is the most pathetic one I've heard to be honest.
 
As I said I don't really think that they went as far as to fake the whole thing up, but its not impossible.

I too think that if they had gone down that route, journalists would have most likely stumbled onto it by now as I'm sure they would try to get hold of passenger manifests and try to track down the families, etc.
 
Really, if you're going to say that there weren't any passengers on the planes then at least say the actual planes were flown out to sea and crashed or something. Still BS, but slightly more believable.
 
Rroff said:
Actually faking up any individual aspect of this whole event would be trivial, its bringing it all together without anyone external to the "plot" noticing thats fiendishly complicated... but I don't see it as completely beyond the capabilities of a well funded, experienced, agency with high level government access.
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For Christs sake get real :rolleyes: There is a mountain of evidence that what you are suggesting is crap. The amount of disrespect you are showing to the families and friends of the plane passengers is staggering.
I suppose your next theory is that no planes crashed at all.
 
Brian Stuart said:
And static in bad taste at that.
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Bad taste? I don't agree with many of the comments in this thread, on both sides of the argument, but to suggest those who press for the truth are in bad taste is pretty low. Let's hear what some of the survivors have to say about the "static" produced by those who don't blindly swallow the official version.

William Rodriguez – WTC survivor - "I know there were explosives placed below the trade center. I helped a man to safety who is living proof, living proof the government story is a lie and a cover-up. "I disagree 100% with the government story," said Rodriguez. "I met with the 9/11 Commission behind closed doors and they essentially discounted everything I said regarding the use of explosives to bring down the north tower.

Anthony Saltalamacchia – WTC Survivor - Do I believe six years after 9/11? I don't know the truth. I don't believe a word that they say. I just don't believe. Everything they say is a cover up. ... No, definitely don't leave it alone. I think that we should get documents to know the truth of what was really going on that we didn't know that we should know now." I was more concerned about getting people needed assistance and, anyway, back then I really thought the government was seriously investigating the WTC attacks. “But since then I have learned otherwise. I realize now they are covering-up the real truth and that’s why I want to release Jose’s statement. What really upsets me and, you can take this message to the White House, is that people like Jose and many others like him who experienced what happened in the basement of the north tower were simply ignored and never interviewed by the 9/11 Commission.

Jose Sanchez – WTC Survivor - “If they really wanted to get at the truth, these are the very people who should have been interviewed, not public officials who knew very little about what occurred inside the buildings that tragic morning. “However, instead we all have been ignored in order to cover up the truth. The victims, those who died and the families who lost loved ones deserve nothing less than the truth and I intend to keep talking until the truth is finally told.”

Couldn't have said it better myself. These are just 3 examples of people who were actually there, people who are a million times for qualified than us to say what they think.

You can read testimony from many other survivors here...
http://patriotsquestion911.com/survivors.html
 
taz488 said:
i agree, lock thread tbh, it serves no purpose.
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Yes it does, it serves the purpose to read some of the crazy stuff these people believe.
If one of them can go away and think 'Oh yeah, I see that now' then we have done a good job.
These threads are always the best part of GD because all you'd have left is watch threads, my girlfriend has left me threads and I've got more money than you threads.
 
Brian Stuart said:
For Christs sake get real :rolleyes: There is a mountain of evidence that what you are suggesting is crap. The amount of disrespect you are showing to the families and friends of the plane passengers is staggering.
I suppose your next theory is that no planes crashed at all.
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I have to lol, you can't distinguish between a CT and someone sitting on the fence.

If you really think that events of that day were impossible to cover up... well I suggest you open your eyes...

Thats the problem with many of the people in this and other threads, you don't seem to have the either the experience or the imagination of what alternatives there are out there.

For obvious reasons I can't go into detail but as someone who formely worked in R&D for companies like SCRDE, etc. I'm aware of plenty of technology and techniques that are years ahead of public domain, leading me to believe that many things potentially could have happened that day that would be outside of the experience of the general public to imagine.

And I'll say it again... I'm not saying events that day were anything other than what they appeared to be on the face of it, just that its entirely possible that events that day were purposefully engineered by a different party.

I have plenty of respect for anyone that died that day, but I believe that they would want the truth to be known whatever shape or form it takes.

Strangely enough I don't know anyone or know anyone that knows someone that died that day, despite a number of aquaintenances that should or could have been. Somehow they all had miraculous escapes which is another thing that leaves me skeptical.
 
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