Worst places in England.

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I would find it difficult to return to west Yorkshire,I only go up to see my family,I used to enjoy windsurfing at pugneys but they knocked that on the head, nowt to do tbh unlike here where I've just had a nice long session, followed by a chill
This is living imho (feel free to score on punctuation)

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I would find it difficult to return to west Yorkshire,I only go up to see my family,I used to enjoy windsurfing at pugneys but they knocked that on the head, nowt to do tbh unlike here where I've just had a nice long session, followed by a chill
This is living imho (feel free to score on punctuation)

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Hasn't the area been ruined now though with all those northern English immigrants moving in?
 
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Only if you look at scenic photos on the internet.
It's a dump and a terrible place for drivers/vehicles.
Been there many times.

Balfron Tower? Moved all the council tenants out for refurbishment and then told them all the flats were being sold off privately. Classy.
Ah was that the one? That's why I put 'gentrify' in quotations, it generally just means replacing people with those that have more money doesn't it. As you say, classy :/
 
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Been there many times.

Visiting a local tourist trap or actually living in a specific area in UK doesn't really make that person understand the county/city they live. Most people rarely venture outside of 5-10 miles from where they live/vacate so really they don't know much about where they live/holiday.

Being in the logistics industry like I am and spending years driving vans and trucks all over the UK I can honestly say there aren't many towns/villages/cities I haven't been to repeatedly. What most people (residents/tourists etc) will never understand is just how problematic and difficult it is travelling around the UK and getting to peoples addresses.

Wales (especially when going into the valleys) is a total nightmare. They've got so many single track country lanes there that are barely wide enough for bicycles so when 2 vehicles meet in opposite directions it creates major problems as the lanes don't even have any passing places so it can turn hostile quickly. We suspended all services to Wales and other rural areas coz we got fed up with the hassle. The last job we did in Welsh valleys about 6 years ago ended up with the Police getting involved, local roads being closed, a driver being charged with assault, and it took over 8 hours for the Police to get all the cars/vans/tractors to reverse back to where they came from on a 3 mile track lane.

Inner cities and rural locations are a major PITA. I literally have to google streetview every postcode these days before I arrange a collection/delivery.
 
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I'm sure it doesn't. Not sure what relevance that has to me though.

You said you've been there many times (wales). That was the relevance. The different purposes of your visit and mine obviously would give different experiences.

It might seem relaxing and enjoyable bimbling through the welsh countryside in a 4x4 with a caravan hooked up on the back coz the only destination you need to get to is a caravan park and it doesn't matter how long it takes you to get there. It's a different story for, as an example, a courier trying to do 60 home deliveries everyday in that area and please customers with 1 hour time slots in their very busy/super important lives where customers hate waiting for anything these days and will post negative feedback reviews in an instant the very moment something goes wrong..... but the courier keeps getting delayed and hampered by travel/traffic/road conditions just trying to get to customers addresses and it's all beyond his/her control.

I deal with these issues everyday matey and I can honestly say that people/customers (in general) are disgusting and unreasonable beyond belief !
 
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I left Bentilee nearly 30 years ago when I joined the RAF, it was an extremely dirt poor council estate back then so something's changed to allow the people who live there now to have a house with a driveway and a Range Rover. No-one back then had a driveway, and if your 10-15yo (so made in mid 70's) car could pass a "genuine" MOT rather than your mates dodgy one then you were lucky, no-one could afford the equivalent of a RR Evoke back then. Hell when someone bought a car which was less than 5yo everyone thought they were posh or were dealers etc!

The "rich" area of Bentilee was a sub-estate called Eaton Park and was non-council so it was there that people had driveways and owned their houses. The local High School (BerryHill) took kids from both estates and the fights were epic in scale. IIRC (and I'm not 100% this was accurate) BerryHill was the first school in Stoke to get CCTV because of the violence (pupil vs pupil and pupil vs teacher) which after a year had to be upgraded to armoured CCTV as the kids deliberately smashed them chucking stones at them every chance they got etc and there was "Anti Vandalism paint" on every surface to stop the kids climbing up the poles to get to the cameras and/or getting on the school roof.

Ah great times :D

The biggest problem Stoke had to me (and this is generic, everyone's experience is unique) was that the attitude of adults of the vast majority on the estates towards getting out was "Don't improve yourself. I'm council scum and proud, my dad was council scum and proud and his dad was council scum and proud too so if you try to improve yourself then I'll drag you back as much as I can, because if you can do it then it shows I could have if I'd tried and I don't want to acknowledge that so you need to stay scum like me" so I'm eternally grateful to my parents who pushed me, even though it isolated them from our neighbours. Well thats my experience of Bentilee anyway, maybe other estates were different, well I hope they were because it was an absolute hell hole to grow-up in for anyone who wanted to "break free".
 
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I left Bentilee nearly 30 years ago when I joined the RAF, it was an extremely dirt poor council estate back then so something's changed to allow the people who live there now to have a house with a driveway and a Range Rover. No-one back then had a driveway, and if your 10-15yo (so made in mid 70's) car could pass a "genuine" MOT rather than your mates dodgy one then you were lucky, no-one could afford the equivalent of a RR Evoke back then. Hell when someone bought a car which was less than 5yo everyone thought they were posh or were dealers etc!

The "rich" area of Bentilee was a sub-estate called Eaton Park and was non-council so it was there that people had driveways and owned their houses. The local High School (BerryHill) took kids from both estates and the fights were epic in scale. IIRC (and I'm not 100% this was accurate) BerryHill was the first school in Stoke to get CCTV because of the violence (pupil vs pupil and pupil vs teacher) which after a year had to be upgraded to armoured CCTV as the kids deliberately smashed them chucking stones at them every chance they got etc and there was "Anti Vandalism paint" on every surface to stop the kids climbing up the poles to get to the cameras and/or getting on the school roof.

Ah great times :D

The biggest problem Stoke had to me (and this is generic, everyone's experience is unique) was that the attitude of adults of the vast majority on the estates towards getting out was "Don't improve yourself. I'm council scum and proud, my dad was council scum and proud and his dad was council scum and proud too so if you try to improve yourself then I'll drag you back as much as I can, because if you can do it then it shows I could have if I'd tried and I don't want to acknowledge that so you need to stay scum like me". Well thats my experience of Bentilee anyway, maybe other estates were different, well I hope they were because it was an absolute hell hole to grow-up in for anyone who wanted to "break free".

I also spent a lot of time on Bentilee as a child because of 7 of my cousins, my school Hanley High was technically in Townsend but the bus dropped us off in Beverley Drive Bentilee.
There was also at least four pubs I used to gig at plus Ubberley & Bentillee WMC, Bentilee British Legion, Clowe's and another the other side of Dividy Road.
I can honestly say I never had a problem with anybody on Bentilee in all my life because they were just working class people but we had to go past Berryhill High on the way home on the bus and sometimes their students would get on, nothing really happened though.
I obviously have no idea what it's turned into but it can't be worse than Abbey Hulton just over the road.
I used to upset my bass player by shouting "and here we have Jase on the Bass from Bentilee" and he'd shout back "Eaton Bloody Park".
 
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I was born in Dewsbury and yes its pretty grim now ,back in the day there was an independent cinema and an M&S now its brighthouse a few charity shops and low end product shops and empty units.
The thing that gets me is the people there look beaten by life ,existing not living but i see that in lots of places i visit like Swindon for instance

You need to be where you love to be or you are wasting your life

Dewsbury is a complete dump now, I used to enjoy going as a kid, there used to be a brilliant independent game shop I remember fawning over there small neo geo aes section. The wife works at Dewsbury District Hospital and the clientèle are shocking. Local drug dealers had a knife fight in the car park recently. Even the mcdees that opened ended up closing!!
 
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