Would a new CPU give me a good increase?

Drake5 · 19 Apr 2012 at 17:19

Currently using an E6750 and since I'm getting back into gaming I'm thinking of upgrading.

If I was to upgrade to an AMD Phenom II Quad would I get a noticeable performance increase over my E6750?

Cheers

d_brennen · 19 Apr 2012 at 17:21

Probably but buying AM3 CPU/boards now would be a waste of money imo

Drake5 · 19 Apr 2012 at 17:22

Thing is I have a spare mobo which would save me cash as I could use the CPU with it.

Cheers

Daichin · 19 Apr 2012 at 17:25

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/60?vs=88

Not necessarily worth it, the performance increase would probably only be definite once you'd overclocked. Personally I'd consider a 2500k to be the only worthwhile upgrade, but that's a personal thing. Take a look at those benchmarks and see what you think.

Drake5 · 19 Apr 2012 at 17:27

I just want to get some better performance, for example in TF2 I play on mostly max settings @ 1920X1080 and when there's lots of action on screen my FPS dips below 30fps.

My specs are:

E6750 2.66GHz
4GB DDR2
5770 1GB

Would a better graphics card be an option? Should I buy a cooler for my E6750 and overclock it?

Cheers

scrlk · 19 Apr 2012 at 17:45

Tom_D said:
I just want to get some better performance, for example in TF2 I play on mostly max settings @ 1920X1080 and when there's lots of action on screen my FPS dips below 30fps.

My specs are:

E6750 2.66GHz
4GB DDR2
5770 1GB

Would a better graphics card be an option? Should I buy a cooler for my E6750 and overclock it?

Cheers

Overclock it. I emailed Robin Walker about this back in 2009:

Robin Walker said:
There are a variety of reasons, actually. Some of them are:
- Our engine is designed to run on as wide a range of computers as possible. Many of the machines sold today have fast CPUs, and very bad GPUs.
- Our character & facial animation system is all done on the CPU, because GPUs haven't had the functionality required to do it until very recently.
- TF2's character animations are more detailed than most other games. More CPU is spent on the character animation setup than anywhere else in the rendering pipeline.
- TF2 is a more complex simulation problem than our other games. Players create more separate entities (projectiles/sentryguns/etc) that require simulation than CS or DoD, for instance.

Hope that helps.

Robin.

The multi-core rendering option is 'bodged on' so to speak, it was added after the release of the game and when multi-core CPUs became popular. This means that in TF2, dual vs quad is a bit of a moot argument, for most it only makes use of 2 cores properly.

Daichin · 19 Apr 2012 at 18:13

Vinni3 @H|H said:
Overclock it. I emailed Robin Walker about this back in 2009:

The multi-core rendering option is 'bodged on' so to speak, it was added after the release of the game and when multi-core CPUs became popular. This means that in TF2, dual vs quad is a bit of a moot argument, for most it only makes use of 2 cores properly.

This. Also for general gaming performance you'd probably benefit more from a new GPU if you overclock that dual core. Many games don't make use of four cores that effectively and that CPU isn't going to bottleneck (for example) a 7850 much if at all.

Drake5 · 19 Apr 2012 at 18:33

I think I may be able to get a 3.2GHz Overclock if I push it with a good cooler. Do you think that would give a visible performance increase from 2.66GHz?

And I really would be able to run a 7850 along side a e6750?

Drake5 · 19 Apr 2012 at 19:24

hmm so are you sure it wouldn't be worth spending £50 and getting a quad phenom from the MM?

cheers
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Sayso · 19 Apr 2012 at 19:26

If the upgrade would only cost you £50 i would do it.

jamesfreddie · 19 Apr 2012 at 19:30

You could try and get a cheap E8400 and overclock it to about 3.8GHz.

Using this cooler http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-001-GD&groupid=701&catid=57&subcat=1395

What PSU do you have?

Does your motherboard support crossfire?

Drake5 · 19 Apr 2012 at 19:50

I have a Corsair CX430W. Nope my mobo isn't a crossfire one and it doesn't really overclock that well however I am confident I could get atleast 3.00GHz from the E6750.

I'm really unsure what to do. Should I use my AM2/3 Mobo and buy a CPU for it?

Would appreciate any opinions.

Drake5 · 19 Apr 2012 at 20:49

This is racking my brains.

Okay, so I have this mobo spare: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3107#ov

I have EVERYTHING else needed for it apart from the CPU. I'd have £80 to spend on the CPU, I could probabaly get a decent CPU from the MM for £80.

What do you think?

jamesfreddie · 19 Apr 2012 at 20:55

What motherboard is in your PC now?

Drake5 · 19 Apr 2012 at 20:58

jamesfreddie said:
What motherboard is in your PC now?

Quite a dated one. It's a Gigabyte G31M-ES2L.

Link:
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3485#ov

Cheers

jamesfreddie · 19 Apr 2012 at 21:01

Tom_D said:
Quite a dated one. It's a Gigabyte G31M-ES2L.

Link:
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3485#ov

Cheers

There are quite good for the money.

You should be able to get 3ghz out of your E6750 on this board.

I would just get a cooler and overclock it.

At least you can use the cooler on a new platform.

Drake5 · 19 Apr 2012 at 21:03

Do you think that'd be the best thing to do then rather than spend £80 on an AMD CPU?

Cheers

synixx · 19 Apr 2012 at 21:06

TF2 should not dip below 60fps with a 5770. It was my card you bought after all so I can say from personal experience (I'm running a phenom 2 955 3.2ghz). Even with my 8800gt and [email protected] I got great performance so i'd certainly attempt an overclock.

Personally I would try to get a phenom II x4 for your AMD motherboard as you can get them for around £50 second hand, cheaper if you get an athlon x4.

jamesfreddie · 19 Apr 2012 at 21:10

Tom_D said:
Do you think that'd be the best thing to do then rather than spend £80 on an AMD CPU?

Cheers

I think you should save your money and get a cooler and a better graphics card when you get enough.

Drake5 · 19 Apr 2012 at 21:10

synixx said:
TF2 should not dip below 60fps with a 5770. It was my card you bought after all so I can say from personal experience (I'm running a phenom 2 955 3.2ghz). Even with my 8800gt and [email protected] I got great performance so i'd certainly attempt an overclock.

Personally I would try to get a quad core for your AMD motherboard as you can get them for around £50 second hand.

Yeah, I think it's the CPU letting me down to be honest. It gets a real slow down when it's in the middle of a 32 player map for example.

I don't have the orange object anymore that's around the CPU socket, do I still need that or will a normal heatsink just fit in place of it?

Cheers