Poll: Would you go from Windows to OSX?
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No you can't, because I use various Cakewalk software to do just that on Windows, to a high standard as well.
no, because OS X won't run Crysis, COD 4, need I go on?
/facepalm
OS X doesn't run the apps that you want it to, that's great. And you've made it clear that you don't consider anything a game unless it's Crysis or Call of Duty 4. My point is that you can't take your opinion of what makes something a game and then present that as evidence that OS X cannot run games. In the same way I can't hold the opinion that Logic and Final Cut are the only things worth bothering with for media creation and then present that as evidence that Windows is crap for video and music editing.
I've tried to make that really clear and you're not getting it, I've event spelt it out that I know OS X isn't a gaming platform, so I won't bother trying to expand on it any more.
Incidentally, does Windows support the shift key?
OS X doesn't run the apps that you want it to, that's great. And you've made it clear that you don't consider anything a game unless it's Crysis or Call of Duty 4. My point is that you can't take your opinion of what makes something a game and then present that as evidence that OS X cannot run games. In the same way I can't hold the opinion that Logic and Final Cut are the only things worth bothering with for media creation and then present that as evidence that Windows is crap for video and music editing.
I've tried to make that really clear and you're not getting it, I've event spelt it out that I know OS X isn't a gaming platform, so I won't bother trying to expand on it any more.
Incidentally, does Windows support the shift key?
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put it this way...
to play the latest greatest games well you need windows.
to produce the latest greatest music either will do it fine.
OSX would be be a nice alternative on the PC
And the reason it would be good ? because OSX is built on unix, its a lot more streamlined in code base than Vista. Vista is just a whole bunch of legacy code with new stuff bolted on. The current programmers have no idea what the old code does, but leave it in anway so as not to break things
i saw a recent test somewhere, and the time taken for a simple command to the soundcard on a mac was in the single digits of ms. For the PC it was more like 50ms due to the pile of code
Granted some of that is due to its cross platform nature, wheas OSX is closed hardware. But i am of the oppinion that the next MS OS could do with being written again from the ground up. Cutting out all the old legacy code and going x64 only the way that Server 2008 has.
And the reason it would be good ? because OSX is built on unix, its a lot more streamlined in code base than Vista. Vista is just a whole bunch of legacy code with new stuff bolted on. The current programmers have no idea what the old code does, but leave it in anway so as not to break things
i saw a recent test somewhere, and the time taken for a simple command to the soundcard on a mac was in the single digits of ms. For the PC it was more like 50ms due to the pile of code
Granted some of that is due to its cross platform nature, wheas OSX is closed hardware. But i am of the oppinion that the next MS OS could do with being written again from the ground up. Cutting out all the old legacy code and going x64 only the way that Server 2008 has.
I'd give it a go, but it would be on my terms not Apple's. That would mean the ability to run it as a virtual machine on my laptop - that would be the most realistic option at the moment. As of now I've not come across a tutorial to install Leopard as a VM on a PC.
At Uni there is a lot of pressure to move over to Mac, but to do it all by the book; well, its the expense that I just cannot justify. The Uni are letting me borrow a G5 for about 9 weeks so I'll give it a good run out, but unless I'm blown away by a noticeable difference I will stick with XP on my main machine and laptop for at least this year.
I've used OS X for nearly 3 years now at Uni, and it's the constant niggles that wind me up about it:
Why can't I turn the Dock off or get rid of it?
I find Finder awful (Directory Opus spoils you, although I am aware of Forklift)
Oddly, the mouse feels very unresponsive - and the ergonomics of the Mighty Mouse is rubbish compared to my MS mouse.
Macs seem to struggle on networks (well the Uni's anyhow)
The biggest niggle tho is being tied into the hardware; my job pretty much demands an ultraportable laptop, and the Macbook Air was a real disappointment.
Conversely, I've given Vista a tryout and feel the same about it as I do OS X. I'm not a big gamer, so I see no need to fork out.
Never say never tho, and as I dual boot with Ubuntu as a bit of fun every now and then - a third boot option is never out of the question.
At Uni there is a lot of pressure to move over to Mac, but to do it all by the book; well, its the expense that I just cannot justify. The Uni are letting me borrow a G5 for about 9 weeks so I'll give it a good run out, but unless I'm blown away by a noticeable difference I will stick with XP on my main machine and laptop for at least this year.
I've used OS X for nearly 3 years now at Uni, and it's the constant niggles that wind me up about it:
Why can't I turn the Dock off or get rid of it?
I find Finder awful (Directory Opus spoils you, although I am aware of Forklift)
Oddly, the mouse feels very unresponsive - and the ergonomics of the Mighty Mouse is rubbish compared to my MS mouse.
Macs seem to struggle on networks (well the Uni's anyhow)
The biggest niggle tho is being tied into the hardware; my job pretty much demands an ultraportable laptop, and the Macbook Air was a real disappointment.
Conversely, I've given Vista a tryout and feel the same about it as I do OS X. I'm not a big gamer, so I see no need to fork out.
Never say never tho, and as I dual boot with Ubuntu as a bit of fun every now and then - a third boot option is never out of the question.
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Overclocking in OS X is hell re-incarnate
Gains and support (as well as choice in good quality software) is nowhere near that of Windows
Unless there has been changes rescently
Gains and support (as well as choice in good quality software) is nowhere near that of Windows
Unless there has been changes rescently
For the same reason you can't turn off or get rid of the taskbar - it's sort of necessary. Surely after using OS X for 3 years you'd have realised the reasons why?
The Dock is a lot more than the Windows/Linux Dock clones, which are really only launchers. It performs the functions of a taskbar as well in terms of managing running programs.
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Why does it have to do something that Windows cannot?
The same can be said for OS X compared to Windows, within the realms of normal user.
As for whoever said software support is hard to find and expensive on OS X - well that's a baffling statement. It has some of the best-made freeware on any OS.
A few people have said similar things - in a way that has looked like OS X must do something absolutely amazing that Windows can't in order for it to even be considered - even in the scenario of the poll and original question.
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I wouldn't, it's not that OSX is a bad operating system, I've just never got on with MacOS in any of it's incarnations, and it doesn't do anything additionally to Vista (and does a few things much worse) that I consider needed.
Couple that with the likelyhood of all the things that are currently considered to be better with OSX being largely based around a tightly restricted, closed enviroment rather than an open enviroment requiring lots of third party driver support, and the argument for me becomes moot.
In answer to the above post, in order for me to take time to install, learn and adapt to a different operating system, it would have to offer specific benefits, either in software or in general (for example, in employability) for me to undertake. I might install it if it was free, but even then I doubt it. (I've played with enough linux distros that are free and not been converted, mainly because if I want something that behaves like windows, I'll just use windows)
Couple that with the likelyhood of all the things that are currently considered to be better with OSX being largely based around a tightly restricted, closed enviroment rather than an open enviroment requiring lots of third party driver support, and the argument for me becomes moot.
In answer to the above post, in order for me to take time to install, learn and adapt to a different operating system, it would have to offer specific benefits, either in software or in general (for example, in employability) for me to undertake. I might install it if it was free, but even then I doubt it. (I've played with enough linux distros that are free and not been converted, mainly because if I want something that behaves like windows, I'll just use windows)
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Freeware aside (as there is a lot of freeware for any major platform), retail mac software can and IS a nightmare to get hold of sometimes; you can see that just by walking into any IT/Software store, aisle and aisles of windows software, with a tiny mac section.
Yes thats partially down to the market, but it doesnt make the issue any less real; retail software for a mac IS harder and typically more expensive to find than a windows equivalent, and I doubt the average consumer is going to want to spend hours and hours searching on the internet for a retail/freeware programme to do what he wants it to; he/she wants to walk into a store and be told where it is and how much its going to cost if possible, and that IS a reality, its something I see every day; the majority of the forums are well informed, IT literate people; the same cannot be said of the general public.
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Vista gives me everything I need so I don't see the need for change, although I have little experience in OSX