X-Factor 2011

George Hincapie said:
He isn't judging him, he's just commenting that he's overweight, which he is.
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Indeed.

I'm overweight but I much older and have abused my self for many years.

I was stick thin at Craigs age amd Fat Kids wind me up.... especially when I see Fat parents overfeeding their kids...

Its child abuse.

Both his parents are Fat
 
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roid said:
Anybody else find it funny at how desperate Barlow was to try to sway the judges votes by saying Amelia shouted her way through the song?
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I liked Gary before this show....But you can be the alpha male without telling lies.

Amelia was class over Criag and she didn't shout once.

Gary didn't need to do this show...He a multi millionaire and its done him no favours...

Having said that No one bought his records when he went solo anyway so it wont matter:p
 
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easyrider said:
I liked Gary before this show....But you can be the alpha male with telling lies.

Amelia was class over Criag and she didn't shout once.

Gary didn't need to do this show...He a multi millionaire and its done him no favours...

Having said that No one bought his records when he went solo anyway so it wont matter:p
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I lost respect for him when he claimed he would never tell lies and then started to tell lies about Frankie.
 
George Hincapie said:
Err...no. His main problem is that he can't sing. And he's a tool, which doesn't help.
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Even with the said problem, the guy gets on the front page of national newspapers, over a week after leaving the show. That's what you call star power. Very few people have this ability.

If he could release a song right now, it would stand a good chance of doing well, based purely on his star power (or dare I say it, X Factor).

He is a terrible singer, but that wouldn't necessarily stop him from selling records. There is not a strict correlation between singing ability and record sales. The XFactor is just as important, which Frankie clearly possesses - much to my amazement.
 
I bet Gary feels stupid, saying that Amelia was shouting. She clearly was not. he just wanted he's act to stay.

I think little minx should have gone ages ago.
 
I did find that comment by Gary a bit of a low blow, but I shouldn't be surprised of what comes out from this show anymore. I'm quite liking Little Mix now, there Saturday preformance was good.
 
sunnysingh said:
I'm quite liking Little Mix now, there Saturday preformance was good.
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I think what X-Factor proves -- as if we really needed proof! -- is that so much "run of the mill" pop music is about the publicity and promotion wrapped around an act rather than the act itself.

At this stage everyone left on X-Factor could easily be auto-tuned and polished into a charting act... whatever that means these days. Some of us remember when having a number one meant something and the highlight of the week was listening to the radio at 6pm on a Sunday.

But enough nostalgia from an old git. :->

I'm going to confess that I still can't shake my attachment to Janet's voice... or at least her potential. I ran through her performances this week, trying to work out why I still like her singing, and I've been surprised that some of her old performances have improved with time... in the sense that I can see that in several cases she's nearly pulled off something rather special with her interpretations of well known songs.

But nearly isn't good enough to win a competition like this, and I still think she needs a few years of "apprenticeship" to build some strength behind that fragile voice. So I'm prepared to see her go out as soon as her hardcore fan base (which must be pretty large) is outnumbered as regular voters shuffle their loyalty around.

The problem I have with all the others though is that none of them strike me as having anything different about them. You could swap all of them with any number of previous X-Factor "successes" or general pop mediocrity, and you'd be none the wiser. They're all competent, but where's the X-Factor?

The mark of a good singer for me is that you'd listen to them sing anything and be engaged, because you enjoy their voice so much. I don't get that off any of them apart from Janet, and even Janet can't deliver the tingle factor any more.

It was interesting seeing Rebecca wossit on tonight though. After Gamu was chucked out last year Rebecca was the only act which stood out as unusual for me. Tonight's performances reminded me of that, but it also reminded me that there was plenty of room for improvement... which hasn't really happened over the last 12 months. I guess I should make an allowance for nerves, but I think she was last year's Janet.

Oh well, I've written an essay about a series I shouldn't really care about at 4am on a Monday morning. What an exciting life I must lead. If there was an X-Factor for forum posters I'd have been out on my ear about ten paragraphs ago. :->
 
sunnysingh said:
I'm quite liking Little Mix now, there Saturday preformance was good.
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I liked them from about 4 songs ago when they were sitting on swings.
You see these 4 little girls come on and their voices are way better than what they look the're going to sound like and I haven't heard them put 1 note wrong.
All 4 judges have also commented how good they are singing acapella round the house.
 
Dimple said:
I liked them from about 4 songs ago when they were sitting on swings.
You see these 4 little girls come on and their voices are way better than what they look the're going to sound like and I haven't heard them put 1 note wrong.
All 4 judges have also commented how good they are singing acapella round the house.
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I too am surprised at how good they are.

They were the only decent performance on saturday.

I thought the song choices on the night were exceptionally poor overall though, when you consider some of the truly great songs from the movies they could have had, the choices they made where, strange, to say the least.
 
The fat troll boy is gone now just Misha B to go and I can watch the show without so much as a flicker of rage! Little Mix really growing on me hope they get the runners up spot as that normally gets them better longevity than the winners.

Lost all interest in Gary Barlow too, before X-Factor I thought he was alright but the longer the show has gone on the more irritating he has become his attempts to be the big bad judge just come off as cheap shots. Wish he had just stuck to being himself rather than some wannabe version of Cowell.
 
Little Mix seemed better this week, but in past weeks they haven't gelled very well at all :/

I thought Janet would win, but Misha B has impressed me more and more each week.

No one stands out though this year as much as Leona's year.

Misha B
Janet
Amelia
Marcus
Little Mix - what a stupid name! :p

BB x
 
To be fair, Leona was a special contestant.
Others include JLS, Alexandra Burke, Olly Murs, Shane Ward - who have all gone on to sell many records.

I still feel that this year, if Amelia could be marketed well (she would need to lose some weight though - I know it sounds cruel, but it is a tough market she is trying to break), she could hit the same target market that Britney Spears and Aguilera hit, 10 years ago. And we all know how big they went on to be.

I remember Billie Piper also hit the same market. Amelia is the same age as these 3 people I just mentioned and it could happen for her.

I agree that Little Mix was a terrible name...I have no idea what Tulisa was thinking when she came up with this name (assuming that it was her).

I watched xtra factor last night and Marcus is hell-bent on sticking with the old school Blues sound and I think he will struggle to sell records if he insists on sticking with this.

For me, Amelia (and formerly Frankie) are the big money makers of this year's candidates. Last year's big money maker was always going to be Cher Lloyd and possibly Cardle (though I always felt he was going to end up like Brookstein).

Brookestein:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Brookstein

In March 2010, Brookstein performed at a pub in Cornwall where punters paid £2.50 to hear him sing - the charge was waived if you bought "a pint and a pie",[5] with his two albums on sale for £3 each. The gig was dubbed a sell-out.[6] In May 2010, he was voted the biggest reality flop of all time by 1,286 visitors to second-hand goods website Pre Loved, topping the poll with 87%
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meh to be honest for all the flack Steve now gets, at least he stuck to his guns and is actually a realist. We all know the show is practically fixed and is just entertainment - but its entertainment thats dicking around with peoples lifes....I think that gives anyone to be ****ed off.
 
The show gives a "chance" to anybody, who is willing to be put through the process, to bypass what most artists will have to go through, to get to the same position.

For instance, if you are a solo artist trying to make it on your own, you have to create a band, go gigging and create a fan base. You may also spend many hours emailing and posting your demos to record execs only to be shot down. The best singer may not ever be heard.

The xfactor contestants however, can bypass all of the above and potentially, make it big, in the space of 3 months. Effectively, they go from zero to hero, in a ridiculously short space of time.

Is it worth the risk...absolutely.

Is anybody forced to audition...nope.

Is anybody held in the xfactor arenas, against their will, if they want to leave....nope.

In summary, the xfactor contestants have absolutely nothing to complain about. The show is merely a platform to kickstart your career. That is all. It guarantees nothing. It is up to you meet the right people, make the right contacts, work hard and keep pushing your own agenda. If you work hard at it, you are almost guaranteed to succeed. JLS and Olly Murrs are perfect examples of this. Neither won the show, but they worked hard. Got record contracts. Kept up the pressure. Kept releasing music. And they now have a successful music career in progress.

Even Joe McElderry, who failed as a pop artists, is moving in to theatre/opera and will certainly be successful in that arena. He use xfactor merely as platform.

I think too many artists feel that just because they won the show, they are made for life....this is not the case. In fact, I would say, the end of the show is where the "real" hard work begins.
 
Dimple said:
Well I don't :confused:
Do you want to explain how they fix it?
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I think what he's trying to say is the show isn't as free running and as some people may want to believe.

E.g. voters will be swayed by a sob story. The decision to add sob stories to the show is not accidental.

Of course I could be entirely wrong and there are no levers and switchers in the X-Factor boardroom and with thanks to nothing but pure chance we end up with an incredibly rich entertainment prime time show which draws in millions.

Just bear in mind those of us who are a little skeptical aren't saying the voting is fixed, we're just curious as to how the voters are influenced.
 
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