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X299 binned and delidded CPU's now available. Along with 8Pack Elite Tier bundles.
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I did not do any. I just do benchmark software 3d mark etc.
The top chips are like single digits percent to find one so hence the premium.
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7900X @ 4.9GHz stable? That looks great! What Vcore, AVX offset and AVX512 offset has to be applied for this bin?
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if you get one of these pre-binned cpu's what warranty is there as the Intel one is gone i believe.
One year the same as any oem cpu's.
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Ok thanks
This is one of the 5.2 bin Kabylake X Air Single Thread R15 with 24-7 Stable clocks. 5277Mhz 1.35v almost 5g cache, 4450Mhz c18 mems
1.25V avx 2 avx512 3-4
Soldato
In other words Ian, it was not AVX stable in any meaningful sense of the word ?
None avx prime 26.6 is what we use for testing. Avx is crazy load on these cpu's.
Xeons don't boost at all with avx load so 4.7 avx stable is very solid.
Xeons don't boost at all with avx load so 4.7 avx stable is very solid.
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So that's a yes then in answer to my question ?
Normal AVX maybe is fine without offset it depends on cpu. AVX512 not. You need offset to control Temps.
It's a depends on the Cpu answer more and you need to test. The figures I gave above means you can plug them in and it's stable without testing.
It's a depends on the Cpu answer more and you need to test. The figures I gave above means you can plug them in and it's stable without testing.
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The one's above though arn't 4.7ghz are they Ian ? They are 5.279ghz. The point is though, by your own statement "Normal AVX maybe is fine without offset it depends on cpu. AVX512 not." actually means you arn't testing with ANY form of AVX, either "Normal" or 512.
So if your belief is that 4.7ghz should be ok, then why not test with AVX at that and then sell them at that ?
Our wires are totally crossed here mate. I was answering the customers question about the i9 7900X and not the 7740X I screen shot above.
That chip will probably only need 1 ratio avx offset to be stable. It's not as hot nor is it avx 512 enabled.
We don't quote with avx as that's not needed for the majority of end users using these chips who are gamers. We add this to the description of the product and in the video I made I said non avx prime.
If our business customer needs avx then we test avx. The reason for avx offset in the bios is so that end users can tailor frequency against workload. So SSE can be maxed out AVX can be maxed out and if the CPU is capable AVX 511 can be maxed out. I myself think this is a good feature for extra tuning and with i9 helps control Temps.
That chip will probably only need 1 ratio avx offset to be stable. It's not as hot nor is it avx 512 enabled.
We don't quote with avx as that's not needed for the majority of end users using these chips who are gamers. We add this to the description of the product and in the video I made I said non avx prime.
If our business customer needs avx then we test avx. The reason for avx offset in the bios is so that end users can tailor frequency against workload. So SSE can be maxed out AVX can be maxed out and if the CPU is capable AVX 511 can be maxed out. I myself think this is a good feature for extra tuning and with i9 helps control Temps.
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Your right Ian, our wires are totally crossed lol.
I trust though that yourself and others will give as much attention to to disabling AVX when clocking Ryzen and Threadripper cpu's and showing us the headline results ? After all it stands to reason that if the 7900x needs it offset to get a decent clock, then the only fair way of comparing it to Ryzen or Threadripper would be to do the same ? If the option isn't available for both, then that should be made well clear in any results, wouldn't you agree ? Or even better would be just to test both in the same way with no AVX offset.
I trust though that yourself and others will give as much attention to to disabling AVX when clocking Ryzen and Threadripper cpu's and showing us the headline results ? After all it stands to reason that if the 7900x needs it offset to get a decent clock, then the only fair way of comparing it to Ryzen or Threadripper would be to do the same ? If the option isn't available for both, then that should be made well clear in any results, wouldn't you agree ? Or even better would be just to test both in the same way with no AVX offset.
Sure if you check my video I used non avx prime 26.6 and Realbench to test Threadripper and ryzen also. Our main customers on here are gamers so I show what they can expect under non avx load. Same always and consistent I agree.
