Xbox 360 Keyboard and Mouse..?

Hilly · 30 Nov 2009 at 08:28

Creature said:
If you're going to use a keyboard and mouse, you may as well stay on pc. Consoles have been using controllers since the very start, so there's no reason to start using anything else now. Just learn to use a controller and it'll become second nature in time.

Beat me too it ^^^

clippa · 30 Nov 2009 at 09:50

I wouldn't say using a superior control system was cheating, if it's available to everyone

Go ahead, I say.

Zensuji · 30 Nov 2009 at 10:10

Kreeeee said:
Watching those videos made me realise just how unfair these things are, they provide an enormous advantage when everyone else is using a pad

Yeah although this vid doesn't have quite the aiming fidelity of the mouse and keyboard vid, given that the people being killed are among the best players in the world its very impressive and shows what can be done with just the humble pad.

skip in a couple of mins to get past the intro, that vid has more impressive plays than XIM vid IMO which will just being in public matches against regular players.

blairw · 30 Nov 2009 at 12:02

That video is unreal! Wish i was that good, gives me a massive yearning for playing halo in a clan environment

Streeteh · 30 Nov 2009 at 12:11

clippa said:
I wouldn't say using a superior control system was cheating, if it's available to everyone Go ahead, I say.

OGC is available to everyone too, doesn't make it acceptable though.

Manlove is my forte · 30 Nov 2009 at 14:26

IMO its like saying. Well I've been driving this car all this time and I'd like to ride a motorbike. But these handle bars seem unnatural, is there anyway to get a steering wheel for my motorbike?

orderoftheflame · 30 Nov 2009 at 14:27

clippa said:
I wouldn't say using a superior control system was cheating, if it's available to everyone Go ahead, I say.

Wallhacks, aimbots and ESP are available to everyone. Should we all use them?

Using a M+K online on a console is cheating imo.

Stick to offline or use a pad.

Manlove is my forte · 30 Nov 2009 at 14:34

The fact of the matter is you are playing against other players using a controller not players using kb/m, so you should be gaging your skill based upon how well you measure up against other players who are also using the same control method.
Whether or not you can do 2 360 spins in a blink of an eye and have 4 head shots whilst playing a PC game is immaterial as no-one can do that using a controller so the only disadvantage you have is your ability to use your thumbs.

Practice makes perfect.

clippa · 30 Nov 2009 at 14:39

What is ogc, streeteh? I'm a pc gamer so I'm not totally clued up on consoles.

Come on, it's nothing like using aimbots and wallhacks. You can use xbox 360 pads on the pc. If everybody has the choice, it's not cheating.
People don't use xbox 360 pads for first person shooters on the pc because that would be silly, you'd be flailing at the ham-fisted unresponsive analogue sticks while you got all of your teeth shot out.
Use the right tool for the job, you have a choice, it's a no-brainer, although I'd imagine a mouse that emulates an analogue control stick isn't going to be all that great.
Has anyone used them? What are they like? Is there a lot of lag?

The fact of the matter is you are playing against other players using a controller not players using kb/m

How do you know that?

Zensuji · 30 Nov 2009 at 14:41

blairw said:
That video is unreal! Wish i was that good, gives me a massive yearning for playing halo in a clan environment

Yeah its crazy. yay Christmas smileys

Hilly · 30 Nov 2009 at 14:48

clippa said:
What is ogc, streeteh? I'm a pc gamer so I'm not totally clued up on consoles.

Come on, it's nothing like using aimbots and wallhacks. You can use xbox 360 pads on the pc. If everybody has the choice, it's not cheating.
People don't use xbox 360 pads for first person shooters on the pc because that would be silly, you'd be flailing at the ham-fisted unresponsive analogue sticks while you got all of your teeth shot out.
Use the right tool for the job, you have a choice, it's a no-brainer, although I'd imagine a mouse that emulates an analogue control stick isn't going to be all that great.
Has anyone used them? What are they like? Is there a lot of lag?

How do you know that?

Your argument has no logic. It's flawed. The consoles are designed to use a controller and not a keyboard and mouse. The keyboard and mouse aren't available for every one as they're not a licensed product and have to be hacked to get past the security.

Consoles are designed to use pads, so use a pad and practice on that.

And OGC = PC cheats.

Fr0dders · 30 Nov 2009 at 14:57

must admit the temptation to do this is very great.

Ive played on console games before using the pads and just not liked them.

PC gaming is going rapidly downhill and unless your into RTS or MMORPG games, theres not a lot the PC can offer you that the console cant. As such ive now moved my primary gaming platform from my PC to my PS3

and using the thumbsticks is so awkward compared with using the keyboard and mouse.

But as others have said you've just got to keep practicing.

Alrik · 30 Nov 2009 at 14:57

clippa said:
Come on, it's nothing like using aimbots and wallhacks. You can use xbox 360 pads on the pc. If everybody has the choice, it's not cheating.

Yes controllers aren't as accurate as a keyboard and mouse, but to compensate for that FPS games on consoles have huge amounts of auto-aim and when you throw in a mouse with that auto-aim you may aswell be using aimbots.

Also you're argument that 360 pads can be used on PC doesn't work either because using a pad on PC FPS gives you no advantage over a mouse, infact it gives you a disadvantage, where as these mouse adapters for 360 give you a huge advantage over a pad.

clippa · 30 Nov 2009 at 15:17

That's just my point, you have the choice on both systems. I've seen keyboard and mouse adapters in the shops for xbox, they must be legitimate.
You have auto aim?

Really?

Manlove is my forte · 30 Nov 2009 at 15:19

Lets take the PC gamers logic and apply it to the real world.

You know when playing snooker, I have often found its much easier to pick up the ball and put it in the pocket, rather than use a long stick and try to hit one ball off the other. I've got hands with opposable thumbs for picking such objects up and a brain which is fairly good at figuring out problems, it would be a shame to waste such natural resources.

clippa said:
That's just my point, you have the choice on both systems. I've seen keyboard and mouse adapters in the shops for xbox, they must be legitimate.
You have auto aim? Really?

They are not legitimate. MS do not support or endorse them and IIRC there is no license fee paid to MS

Creature · 30 Nov 2009 at 15:20

Auto-aim isn't true auto-aim, and it's only really in single player. Just means that when aiming with a non-sight gun, it locks to a target if you're close enough. Besides, what's wrong with using controllers on pc, you said it yourself, they are worse

clippa · 30 Nov 2009 at 15:22

Manlove is my forte said:
Lets take the PC gamers logic and apply it to the real world.

You know when playing snooker, I have often found its much easier to pick up the ball and put it in the pocket, rather than use a long stick and try to hit one ball off the other. I've got hands with aposable fingers for picking such objects up and a brain which is fairly good at figuring out problems, it would be a shame to waste such natural resources.

When playing football, I like to strap snooker cues to my shoes and see if I can pot the ball into the goal while I lounge back on my sofa. I hire someone to aim for me though, I can't be doing everything

Sutters · 30 Nov 2009 at 15:37

You won't get a xim anyway, the demand is massive and the instant they release a new batch they are sold within seconds.

orderoftheflame · 1 Dec 2009 at 11:00

Creature said:
Auto-aim isn't true auto-aim, and it's only really in single player.

Uh..

A lot of the Multiplayer FPS games feature it quite a bit.

orderoftheflame · 1 Dec 2009 at 11:02

clippa said:
When playing football, I like to strap snooker cues to my shoes and see if I can pot the ball into the goal while I lounge back on my sofa. I hire someone to aim for me though, I can't be doing everything

If your so against the console way of doing things? Why don't you just play on the PC?