**XBOX ONE** Official Thread

Sony can just clean up in the "console war" very very easily if they do the opposite of what Microsoft are doing here.

Hopefully they do. It would make a lot of business sense to listen to what people want and just give it to them.
 
hopefully they will, but I think the likes of UBISOFT and EA are really going to push hard on this and I think they will make it hard for Sony if they don't play ball.
 
So far all we know from Sony is that the console will not require an internet connection to play games and they are not going to block used games but publishers can if they choose to (much like it is now). The difference as far as i see is that on the XB1 publishers have to allow trades and with the PS4 publishers have to not allow game trades.
 
hopefully they will, but I think the likes of UBISOFT and EA are really going to push hard on this and I think they will make it hard for Sony if they don't play ball.

This is the thing. All it would take is a single statement from Activision. "Due to concerns with security on the Playstation 4, we will not be publishing games for that platform".
 
This is the thing. All it would take is a single statement from Activision. "Due to concerns with security on the Playstation 4, we will not be publishing games for that platform".


But anyone who thinks there is any chance of the happening who be a deluded fool.

Especially since like, you know, the PC and Wii and stuff.
 
But anyone who thinks there is any chance of the happening who be a deluded fool.

Especially since like, you know, the PC and Wii and stuff.

Would they really? The publishers now have access to the tech, and the leverage to kill 2nd hand sales. They have already done it on PC with steam.
 
Would they really? The publishers now have access to the tech, and the leverage to kill 2nd hand sales. They have already done it on PC with steam.

Already done what? The pc is completely open and games were cracked and pirated in seconds, cd keys were a needed evil as the pirates were killing any chance of developers supporting the platform. The pc never had a second hand market, you either bought a game or "downloaded" it.

The consoles are not open and that is not possible. Sony should leave it up to the pubs how they want to do drm and the consumers can decide on a game by game basis if a game is worth it. That will be enough.
 
What is the big deal with the one needing to connect to the internet all the time... Are all of our boxes not connected to the internet 24/7 anyway.

What a bunch of crybabies.
 
people are hammering MS about the xbox one but there has been more to see so far from MS than Sony has shown of PS4. My guess is they will be very very similar in performance and gfx. I await E3 with baited breath.

Not a chance of them being as close as you hope.
 
Already done what? The pc is completely open and games were cracked and pirated in seconds, cd keys were a needed evil as the pirates were killing any chance of developers supporting the platform. The pc never had a second hand market, you either bought a game or "downloaded" it.

The consoles are not open and that is not possible. Sony should leave it up to the pubs how they want to do drm and the consumers can decide on a game by game basis if a game is worth it. That will be enough.

Not possible? The Wii Xbox and PS3 have all been hacked and can be made to run pirated games, it just took longer. In fact when was the last console that wasn't able to run pirated games?
 
What is the big deal with the one needing to connect to the internet all the time... Are all of our boxes not connected to the internet 24/7 anyway.

What a bunch of crybabies.

Because not everywhere has reliable Internet. Rural places particularly. The army also use 360s quite a lot without Internet connections, with the xbone, they're pretty screwed.
 
Not possible? The Wii Xbox and PS3 have all been hacked and can be made to run pirated games, it just took longer. In fact when was the last console that wasn't able to run pirated games?

Lol, the PS3 nor Xbox 360 are hacked, for a console to be hacked the last properly hacked console which had the master loader released keys was the psp.... The 360s keys are still intact and the PS3 hack can only be used on early machines with an early firmware.

Piracy after all these years is a non issue. Even if they were blown wide open the current online setup provides plenty of deterrent to not pirating for most.
 
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These few clarifications just help confirm the console isn't for me.

Heck , my net doesn't even pass the recommended speed.
Such a shame about the no second hand games (effectively)

Also can't get ps4 as the controllers look basically same as ps3
 
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Because not everywhere has reliable Internet. Rural places particularly.
What percentage of the UK can't connect to the internet at least once a day?

I get it, if you have crap internet or live in the ******** of beyond then you're maybe not going to like this move by MS, but it's not their fault you're behind the curve.
 
Sony can just clean up in the "console war" very very easily if they do the opposite of what Microsoft are doing here.

Hopefully they do. It would make a lot of business sense to listen to what people want and just give it to them.

They won't, they could but they can now blame the publisher and copy them. They could kill off MS in the console war for good after MS made so much headway or they could match them and make money as well.

I think they will match them.
 
What percentage of the UK can't connect to the internet at least once a day?

I get it, if you have crap internet or live in the ******** of beyond then you're maybe not going to like this move by MS, but it's not their fault you're behind the curve.

Not in the armed forces then? Maybe you don't work offshore?

I guess you are okay in your bubble, never lend or sell or anything?
 
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