**XBOX ONE** Official Thread

Scrutinize said:
If this step-change meant that new games would be priced more keenly, come down in price much quicker and parallel with regular sales, as demonstrated by the steam 'PC gaming model', then this could be good for the consumer.
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If I could believe that would happen then i'd be behind this DRM thing. Sadly I don't see that happening. We'd see games at the same price but now the publishers have complete control over the buying and selling of them.

eggyoke said:
It's about money and controlling the market as much as possible in an extremely aggressive and unwarranted way.
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That sentence says it all. Publishers want this so they can control exactly how much games will cost and there will be nothing us consumers can do about it.

However,I suspect that the EU won't let them get away with it. It will basically be classed as price fixing.
 
eggyoke said:
Absolutely, but not when its at the consumers expense.

Microsoft isn't doing this only to stop piracy. It's about money and controlling the market as much as possible in an extremely aggressive and unwarranted way.

Also the videogame industry has had no problem growing into the multi-billion dollar behemoth it is today regardless of piracy throughout the last couple of decades. Of course I'm not saying its a good thing, but piracy will always exist on every platform to a degree, the problem we have here is that Microsoft want to use it as an excuse to force draconian type control over our experiences and money, when history has proven it doesn't need to.
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ok how is this at the expense of the consumer? I think ps4 will go same way but how is it at expense of consumer? you can still buy games new you can still buy games 2nd hand. Microsoft are not forcing publishers to charge for 2nd hand games, its down to the individual publisher. if you think sony wont have something similar I think you'd be wrong. publishers are asking for DRM not Microsoft or sony
 
phil_t98 said:
ok how is this at the expense of the consumer? I think ps4 will go same way but how is it at expense of consumer? you can still buy games new you can still buy games 2nd hand. Microsoft are not forcing publishers to charge for 2nd hand games, its down to the individual publisher. if you think sony wont have something similar I think you'd be wrong. publishers are asking for DRM not Microsoft or sony
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I believe Sony will simply leave DRM up to the Publishers, rather than locking the system down like MS plan to do.

MS have made a bad move.
 
I don't think C&VG have got it quite right. As far as I can understand it, you have your copy of the game and you can then allow 10 other "family" members to access the same game. But only one of them can play it at a time.

I assumed this one other person can play even if you are playing but C&VG seems to think they can't.
 
I'm sure the European Union are going to say something about this too. They were looking into Steam's practices of not being able to transfer ownership of digital games.
 
ic1male said:
I assumed this one other person can play even if you are playing but C&VG seems to think they can't.
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Why would they allow you to play the same game at the same time? With the rest of the stuff they are stopping you doing it would seem strange for them to allow you to do something you could never do before.
 
ZG002 said:
Why would they allow you to play the same game at the same time? With the rest of the stuff they are stopping you doing it would seem strange for them to allow you to do something you could never do before.
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Aye but up til now you've always needed the disc to play. You won't on Xbox One.

So if my friend is playing Call of Duty via my account and I start playing it, will it warn me that I can't play because they're playing (unlikely because it says I always have access to my games) so then it must pop up a screen on my friend's console saying I've started playing and it will automatically quit their version. Sounds a bit of a headache if they haven't saved for a while.
 
Guess we will see, But I'd imagine the pubs will want you to buy a second copy if you are wanting to play the game at the same time on a different system. If not then that's a nice surprise for some, like my other halves farther and brother play a lot of battle field together and would save them the cost of a game.
 
phil_t98 said:
Be interesting to see if some pubs go exclusive to one console
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WHA???

Why cut your potential sales in half? For the sake of what, potentially making a few extra quid om the 2nd hand market?

Would be utter madness for any publisher to do that, unless 1 console had a massive lead ie. 85%+ market share, which isn't going to happen.
 
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Even with the rule about only person playing at a time (incl. the owner) it would mean that publishers can lose out on sales of games. e.g. I'd be quite happy to wait to play something non-multiplayer until after my friend has finished playing it. And then you could multiply that by 10x for the others in your family list if they want to wait.
 
ic1male said:
Even with the rule about only person playing at a time (incl. the owner) it would mean that publishers can lose out on sales of games. e.g. I'd be quite happy to wait to play something non-multiplayer until after my friend has finished playing it. And then you could multiply that by 10x for the others in your family list if they want to wait.
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Yeah but dont people do that now? Cant the game only be gifted once tho?
 
We've got 6 months give or take until release that's a lot of time for them to rethink, re-jig or even completely change some of these things. Releasing details this early maybe a calculated gamble or even a massive attempt to do a focus group type thing for some of their ideas.

To be honest though I'm not overly concerned one way or the other as I'll be buying it.
 
Loaded with memory
8GB of RAM and a 500GB hard drive give you plenty of memory for your games, demos, movies, apps, music, and more.

Xbox One system software uses a significant amount of storage; less internal storage will be available to users. 500 GB = 500 billion bytes.
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I wonder how much they're going to take away with the system software and Game DVR feature.
 
I've not looked into the rumours and stuff, because quite frankly I don't care, but what is this about the camera always being on? Or is that not at all true?
 
G-MAN2004 said:
I've not looked into the rumours and stuff, because quite frankly I don't care, but what is this about the camera always being on? Or is that not at all true?
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It was rumoured to be on all the time, then the last set of details say you can turn it off.
 
Apparently not true, in fact Kinect can be disabled completely. Even when enabled it seems to default to only the mic being always on however MS say that the only command it is listening for is "Xbox on".
 
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