**XBOX ONE** Official Thread

As a gesture of thanks to the millions of Xbox fans around the world for their passion and loyalty, Xbox announced that every Xbox Live Gold subscriber will receive two free Xbox 360 games per month until the release of Xbox One, starting with a pair of popular titles: “Halo 3” and “Assassin’s Creed II.” And to celebrate E3 in the month of June, Xbox Live Gold members will receive a free download of “Fable III.”

http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/x360-xbox-360-e3-2013-reveal

Lol, gee thanks.

I picked up a copy of halo 3 off eBay for £3 a few months back and creed 2 was even cheaper if I remember right. Hardly a gesture of thanks more like a buy your gold subs now jump on the awesome bandwagon that is Xbox marketing!!
 
This article sums up exactly how I feel about the next gen consoles

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-06-11-war-never-changes

Articles like that are ******* stupid. What do people actually expect? Next gen is just about getting more power so we can push the boundary on, we can make bigger and better looking games. That article sounds like it has been written by a former gamer who doesn't like gaming any more, just move on.
 
Articles like that are ******* stupid. What do people actually expect? Next gen is just about getting more power so we can push the boundary on, we can make bigger and better looking games. That article sounds like it has been written by a former gamer who doesn't like gaming any more, just move on.

So Next gen is just about bigger and better looking games? Here I was thinking it was about pushing the creative boundaries to create games like none before. I'm thinking things like when FEZ came out, there's wasn't any other game like it. Also like Little Big Planet.
 
Can anyone provide a link with accurate information to how the DRM/trade-ins/lending etc works? seems all a bit of a mess and no one really knows at the moment!

As you don't seem to be getting a straight answer from anyone else, here you go:

You can trade in your games at authorised retailers. Publishers may decide to charge a fee (to the retailer or the customer) for this service (so basically no more online passes as they can charge this way instead if they wish).

You can also gift your game to a friend. That friend must have been on your Xbox Live friends list for more than 30 days. A game can only be gifted once (your friend cannot gift the game to someone else afterwards, though he/she can trade it in).

If your machine is offline for more than 24 hours, your games won't work until you log back in to Live. The console needs to 'check-in' to verify that you still own the games (i.e. you haven't traded them in or gifted them).

You can play your Xbox One game on any Xbox One console in the world, provided you are signed on to your Xbox One account. If you don't have the disk, you can download the game from the store.

You can install games to your Xbox One's HDD and play disk-free (essentially what most of the above is in place to allow - you can't have disk-free play without DRM).

Currently there isn't a solution in place for renting games or lending them out to friends. This might happen in time for launch, or it might not.

There will be a solution in place at launch to allow families to share games uninhibited across multiple Xbox One consoles. Details on this system haven't yet been announced.

So, advantages and disadvantages versus the current system (and the one the PS4 uses):

Advantages
  • Disks no longer needed
  • Can play anywhere, anytime - games can be downloaded to any console and will come complete with your saves, allowing you to pick up where you left off
  • Instant switching between games and other disk-based media (e.g. Blu-Ray, DVD, CD).
Disadvantages
  • Trade-ins via authorised resellers only
  • Selling on forums like this can only be done using the 'Gifting' system (with the restrictions that brings)
  • The console needs a reliable internet connection - if your internet goes down for more than 24 hours, you can't play your games
  • There's currently no system in place for renting games (e.g. from Lovefilm, Blockbuster etc.)
  • You cannot (currently) lend a game to a friend. You can play together on your friend's Xbox One, but he/she can't play on his/her own without buying the game.
It's very much a mixed bag. If you currently use GAME for trade-ins, don't rent games and aren't prone to lending them out to friends, it isn't really going to matter (so long as your internet connection is reliable). Unfortunately, there's enough negatives that a lot of people can find something to grumble about.

To me personally, it doesn't matter so much. I don't rent games, I have no issues with using authorised resellers for trade-ins and swapping games with friends is a rarity. It's only the 24 hour check-in requirement that bothers me. The thing that's turning me off the Xbox One isn't the DRM, it's the price. Given how many of these games are coming to PC as well, it's difficult to justify spending £430 on a new Xbox. With pre-E3 rumours of Fable IV, Banjo Kazooie and Beyond Good and Evil 2, I'm a little disappointed in the games line-up too. Lots of 1st/3rd person shooters and action games with little else.
 
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Killer Instinct reboot is free-to-play, only one character is free

Killer Instinct is getting a reboot on Xbox One, courtesy of Double Helix Games . Good news: it’s free-to-play. Potential bad news: you have to pay for every character, except Jago.

Destructoid confirmed in this Killer Instinct preview, that while the fighter is free to all, you have to pay individually for new and returning characters. That’s a payment per character, but the specific cost has not been confirmed, so don’t start worrying just yet, as they could be dirt cheap.

Characters have two life bars just like in the original games, and big combos and Combo-Breakers are back. The game’s out at the Xbox One launch.

What do you make of the above? Also, why not check out some new Killer Instinct trailer and screens here?

http://www.vg247.com/2013/06/11/killer-instinct-reboot-is-free-to-play-only-one-character-is-free/

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/...You-One-Character--Not-Developed-By-Rare.html
 
So Next gen is just about bigger and better looking games? Here I was thinking it was about pushing the creative boundaries to create games like none before.
So what you're saying is you swallowed the bait, but not the hook?

I'm thinking things like when FEZ came out, there's wasn't any other game like it. Also like Little Big Planet.
Then as the writer of the article you clearly do not understand the games industry. PC is the place for pushing boundaries and experimenting, consoles are for making billions of $.

MS cannot push consoles on games like FEZ, fez has shipped ~200,000 on XBox?

Undoubtedly there will be games liked FEZ on the ONE but the drooling hordes of coddicts aren't going to get excited about games like that at a console launch.

Nat that Fez is a particularly good game in the first place...
 
Advantages
  • Disks no longer needed
  • Can play anywhere, anytime - games can be downloaded to any console and will come complete with your saves, allowing you to pick up where you left off


  • Rules Rules Rules

    As I said a couple of weeks back - popping round you mates and logging in there to show him the latest game might involve a 15-20Gb download first. Cloud stuff is good but when the source material size is >10Gb not exactly as handy as they make it out to be
 
Rules Rules Rules

As I said a couple of weeks back - popping round you mates and logging in there to show him the latest game might involve a 15-20Gb download first. Cloud stuff is good but when the source material size is >10Gb not exactly as handy as they make it out to be

If you are often going round to mates with games to play then surely you would be buying games on disc?
 
Rules Rules Rules

As I said a couple of weeks back - popping round you mates and logging in there to show him the latest game might involve a 15-20Gb download first. Cloud stuff is good but when the source material size is >10Gb not exactly as handy as they make it out to be

Depends on the speed of your mate's internet connection, surely? I wouldn't do it on my 1.5Mbps countryside internet connection, but high-speed internet is becoming ever more common. On the fastest household connections, we'd be looking at a 20-30 minute wait for most games. That will only get faster year on year.

It might only appeal to a niche (40Mbps+) crowd at the moment, but even so it is still a boon that the option is there. The advantages and disadvantages that I listed apply differently to different people's needs.
 
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consoles are for making billions of $

I agree with that but at the same time it's a shame it has to be this way. I think PC gaming is still strong but not as strong as it once was. It's a shame that in the majority of cases console games have a heavy influence on what PC gamers are going to get :( I'm sick of these ports.

Everything that was shown in relation to games on these Next gen consoles doesn't wow me (apart from Destiny).
 
I agree with that but at the same time it's a shame it has to be this way. I think PC gaming is still strong but not as strong as it once was. It's a shame that in the majority of cases console games have a heavy influence on what PC gamers are going to get :( I'm sick of these ports.

Everything that was shown in relation to games on these Next gen consoles doesn't wow me (apart from Destiny).

PC will be in a stronger position then ever with this generation of consoles imo. Both PS4 and Xbox1 are essentially just PC's which means the decision to port to PC is a much easier one (It's stupid not too).

Ports should also be much better with far less work as a result. Also as Microsoft and Sony fight tooth and nail for exclusives the PC just wings in under the radar and gets some of them for free.

Titanfall exclusive for Xbox1! (and PC) :)
 
PC will be in a stronger position then ever with this generation of consoles imo. Both PS4 and Xbox1 are essentially just PC's which means the decision to port to PC is a much easier one (It's stupid not too).

Ports should also be much better with far less work as a result. Also as Microsoft and Sony fight tooth and nail for exclusives the PC just wings in under the radar and gets some of them for free.

Titanfall exclusive for Xbox1! (and PC) :)

Sounds good to me :) Is the architecture of the Xbox One similar to that of PCs?
 
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