**XBOX ONE** Official Thread

I could see HDD space becoming a premium. Installing my own games plus what ever my friends want to share with whom. (I would assume the friend can Tag the ones he wants to share, then they get downloaded from the publisher through XBL?)


If they let you play online games with it, it'll be like when split screening with a mate on the one profile, but in different houses.:)


I wonder in the achievements will only be gained on the original account, not the person who's playing the shared one.
It'll give incentives for people to buy a copy for themselves and if your card details have been registered, just click a button for full access. (at the RRP ;))
 
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I can #dealwithit and not have any achievements at all, if it means that my mate dave pays for all the games and I just have to get an xbone, live and be on his family list to play his games.

Love or hate the Xbox one... You have to say this is the worst launch of a console ever possibly the worst launch of any product. Such bad PR, rumours and miss information everywhere. They really need a time line of all the rumours, miss information, correct information and say what's correct and what's not. Cos I for one don't know what the hell is happening; expect for the fact the m$ seems to be getting their butts kicked everyday.
 
The Xbox One is probably Microsoft's second to last step from their their original goal 10 year ago:

Conquering the living room.


Xbox 1 was a foothold.

XBL was the service.

360 helped make the service incredibly successful and popular.

Xbox One is to aid the digital transition and redefine digital rights management/ownership for that service.

The new Xbox? The final step. Might as well just call it XBL that includes an updated hardware box. XBL is the service you'll be looking at. The box is just a transportation tool for said service.



Gamers certainly wouldn't want that. But gamers are making the mistake that Microsoft is still selling you a plain and simple videogame console. That's laughably wrong. It's a internet connected multimedia box with the main purpose of consuming digital media in your living room and also has the ability to play video games. Your smartphone is a internet connected comms device to consume information and digital entertainment that also happens to have the ability to call people.

You want your phone just to be a phone? Absolutely fine. You want your video game console to be just a video game console? Absolutely fine too. Microsoft is just trying to bet on the people who probably want more than just a video game console and they're not looking to sell to you.


I personally would love to see a 'Circle of Family' sharing of digital content to be widespread across the board. I especially want it for Steam. Either way, I would love to see this type of digital ownership policy change come about in the world. Apps. Music. Movies. Games. etc.
 
ic1male said:
I knew there'd be a catch. This is getting more ridiculous each week.
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Hang on. Microsoft are offering a free service where up to 10 of your friends can play your single players games for free, without any hassle on their part, and you're calling it ridiculous?! What are you expecting?

I already said several pages back I expect it to be restricted to single player games only (or single player parts of games), so this isn't exactly unexpected news to me. I'm still just really happy about the thought that my brother can buy one game, I can buy another, and when we're done with the single player story, play the game the other owns without having to go and swap disks.
 
biron_w said:
Or maybe MS are making the mistake in that they aren't selling gamers a pure video game console.
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Who says that Microsoft is really selling Xbox One to just gamers?

Do gamers own or control the living room space wholly? Do you remember Microsoft's ultimate plan of taking over the living room space?
 
Davey_Pitch said:
Hang on. Microsoft are offering a free service where up to 10 of your friends can play your single players games for free, without any hassle on their part, and you're calling it ridiculous?! What are you expecting?

I already said several pages back I expect it to be restricted to single player games only (or single player parts of games), so this isn't exactly unexpected news to me. I'm still just really happy about the thought that my brother can buy one game, I can buy another, and when we're done with the single player story, play the game the other owns without having to go and swap disks.
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Is there something inherently hard about swapping disks? I didn't realise there was?

What about when both you and your brother are done and you want to sell the game you are finished with to buy a new one?

Skellig said:
Who says that Microsoft is really selling Xbox One to just gamers?

Do gamers own or control the living room space wholly? Do you remember Microsoft's ultimate plan of taking over the living room space?
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Tell will tell, but it now appears MS are trying a create a market without actually having the demand for it. People are bored with wafting their arms around the the living room, the novelty has worn off. People have dozens of devices with which to Skype and watch TV already and MS think we all need another one and we will pay a premium for it. They even think that most of us will be willing to forego our basic consumer rights for the convenience of not having to get off the couch to change a disc so they can regulate how everything is done in their ecosystem. They even hope people are apparently falling for the being able to share your stuff with only one person at a time instead of who you like as the physical act of giving someone a disc to too tortuous to bare.

If it works out
 
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kitch9 said:
Is there something inherently hard about swapping disks? I didn't realise there was?

What about when both you and your brother are done and you want to sell the game you are finished with to buy a new one?
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There's nothing inherently hard about swapping discs at all. Distance might be an issue, though.

For example, me and my brother don't live together. If we wanted to borrow games, it requires driving down to one another to physically swap the disc. At least being able to share digitally will mean that we don't have to do this. By the way, you'd be able to still give away discs with Xbox One games. But the disc would really only be there to assist in installation (e.g. he doesn't have a fast internet connection to download the game - this isn't true but let's just use it as an example). The license is the only thing that dictates ownership.

And to answer your last question: Why, you would be able to sell the game, of course. But at licensed retailers only. It might also be dependant on the publisher but you would have been aware of this before you bought the game in the first place.

You can still sell and buy used games unless a publishers explicitly said otherwise.
 
Davey_Pitch said:
Hang on. Microsoft are offering a free service where up to 10 of your friends can play your single players games for free, without any hassle on their part, and you're calling it ridiculous?! What are you expecting?
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Isnt that just speculation though? Or just somebodies take on a few words from a microsoft interview.
I cannot see microsoft just allowing ten people to share a single game willy nilly. Sure if its in the same home but think of the money theyd lose from single player games, it would make them sick!
 
slinxy said:
You have to say this is the worst launch of a console ever possibly the worst launch of any product.
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The PS3 launch was pretty bad when you think about it, press conference, price tag and lack of good games for quite some time, and that still worked out well.
 
Semiskimmed said:
Isnt that just speculation though? Or just somebodies take on a few words from a microsoft interview.
I cannot see microsoft just allowing ten people to share a single game willy nilly. Sure if its in the same home but think of the money theyd lose from single player games, it would make them sick!
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Direct from Xbox Website:

http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/license

Give your family access to your entire games library anytime, anywhere: Xbox One will enable new forms of access for families. Up to ten members of your family can log in and play from your shared games library on any Xbox One. Just like today, a family member can play your copy of Forza Motorsport at a friend’s house. Only now, they will see not just Forza, but all of your shared games. You can always play your games, and any one of your family members can be playing from your shared library at a given time.
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There was an interview on arstechnica as well as information snippets here and there including Major Nelson.

The top thing I linked is as official as you can get. The only thing people are speculating about is the details:

Swearing in picture.

So the only fact is:

You can share any of your game library with 10 other people, digitally.


What we'd like to know more clear info about is:

1. Can the owner + family member game at the same time (indications seem to be "yes" but unconfirmed)

2. Is this limited to single player only (no info either way)

3. How far can this circle extend/is there a limit to people circling you (indications seems to say "no" - there isn't a limit)
 
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kitch9 said:
Is there something inherently hard about swapping disks? I didn't realise there was?

What about when both you and your brother are done and you want to sell the game you are finished with to buy a new one?
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Nope, nothing hard about swapping disks, except I'm lazy and can't often be bothered going out and seeing him :D Also, I have friends across the country, and a cousin in Australia, who I would put on my list. It's not quite so easy to swap disks with them is it?

And as for selling games when we're done with them - I don't do that. I haven't traded any games in for quite some time now, I'm fortunate enough to be in a financial situation where I don't have to. I know not everyone is so lucky, but MS *have* said you can sell your games at participating retailers. I (like everyone else) would like some clarification about exactly what that means though.
 
Skellig said:
Direct from Xbox Website:

http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/license



There was an interview on arstechnica as well as information snippets here and there including Major Nelson.

The top thing I linked is as official as you can get. The only thing people are speculating about is the details:


So the only fact is:

You can share any of your game library with 10 other people, digitally.


What we'd like to know more clear info about is:

1. Can the owner + family member game at the same time (indications seem to be "yes" but unconfirmed)

2. Is this limited to single player only (no info either way)

3. How far can this circle extend/is there a limit to people circling you (indications seems to say "no" - there isn't a limit)
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You can all only be part of one family, which means if 2 of you are using the library, 8 people cannot have access to anything else.

Or something, god knows, not even MS does!
 
Skellig said:
Who says that Microsoft is really selling Xbox One to just gamers?

Do gamers own or control the living room space wholly? Do you remember Microsoft's ultimate plan of taking over the living room space?
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What other demographic is going to pay out £430 for Xbone? if they aren't aiming it primarily at gamers then they should have made it much less powerful with a much more competitive price tag as it would need to be £200 or less to appeal to anyone but gamers.
 
Hmm, It's blu-ray discs so to download the game is going to take a long time when the average Internet speed in the UK is 12Mbit/s. And some of us are still on 3Mbit/s.
 
kitch9 said:
You can all only be part of one family, which means if 2 of you are using the library, 8 people cannot have access to anything else.

Or something, god knows, not even MS does!
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No. That's not right. You're wrong.

I'm not sure what you mean by "part of one family" but:

10 people can have access to your gaming library at a given time. If you have 10 different games all 10 of your family members can play each different game. You can also play your games too.

2 family members can not play the exact same game at the same time though.

Give your family access to your entire games library anytime, anywhere: Xbox One will enable new forms of access for families. Up to ten members of your family can log in and play from your shared games library on any Xbox One. Just like today, a family member can play your copy of Forza Motorsport at a friend’s house. Only now, they will see not just Forza, but all of your shared games. You can always play your games, and any one of your family members can be playing from your shared library at a given time.
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