**XBOX ONE** Official Thread

10 people can have access to your gaming library at a given time. If you have 10 different games all 10 of your family members can play each different game. You can also play your games too.

2 family members can not play the exact same game at the same time though.

No, that's not right. You and one other can be playing from your library. It doesn't matter whether it's the same game.
 
What other demographic is going to pay out £430 for Xbone? if they aren't aiming it primarily at gamers then they should have made it much less powerful with a much more competitive price tag as it would need to be £200 or less to appeal to anyone but gamers.

The demographic looking at the adverts for Kinect 2.0 and TV integration. The demographic who are looking at the Youtube or Netflicks app on their big TV and flicking through channels with their hands or watching football whilst skyping or bringing up random stats.

I don't think the Xbox One was about being a game console. Just a multimedia box. The same multimedia box that Apple and Google have been fighting for to put in living rooms. That's a pretty big demographic right there. Give them the right shiny tech and the right content for digital consumption (music, movies, apps, tv shows and games) and they'll be buying the all-in-one box just like they went in droves to buy a new smartphone.

Obviously the question is if Microsoft can achieve something like that. I'm dubious.
 
Getting back to the games for a moment, I am really torn between what games to pre-order with the console. I remember when the 360 came out, there were only 3 games I wanted (Condemned, PGR4, Need for Speed), so I found the money for all 3 of them. Now with the Xbox One, I can count at least 5 games I want at launch, and that's without all the launch titles being confirmed yet. As it stands, these are the ones I know I'll want...

Dead Rising 3
Forza 5
Watch Dogs
Battlefield 4
Fifa 14

Ryse looks interesting but I think I'll want to see a bit more footage before confirming that. Anyone else struggling to pick out what games they want?
 
The ones I really want are Dead Rising 3, Watch Dogs, Call of Duty and BF4. Possibly Forza but that's one I may wait on as I'll have more than enough to keep me busy.

Too many to get all at once really, tough decision to get some off that list :p
 
The ones I really want are Dead Rising 3, Watch Dogs, Call of Duty and BF4. Possibly Forza but that's one I may wait on as I'll have more than enough to keep me busy.

Too many to get all at once really, tough decision to get some off that list :p

If I get one we can go halves on Watch Dogs ;)
 
I'll await clarification on the 10 people sharing a game rule.

If you think the devs and publishers are going to allow that then you have to be kidding. They have won a cut of resales but will allow effectively 1 in 10 people to actually buy the game and have the other 9 play it for free isnt going to happen. too many loopholes at the moment so expect some "clarification" on this one closer to release. I expect they are letting this one go at the moment as its probably one of the only decent policies doing the rounds for the Xbone at the moment
 
If you think the devs and publishers are going to allow that then you have to be kidding.

If it's a feature built into the Xbox then they don't have a choice in the matter. However, I do agree that we could do with some concrete confirmation on how it will work. Ideally I'd like to see some footage of it in action, that would do me fine.
 
I can't see this happening. I expect the 'details' will be worked out to allow 1 person to play a game at once and cut down the number from 10. Achievements aren't enough of an incentive to stop people just game sharing.
 
First line if the t&c, 'You can always play your games' aw, cheers MS, really appreciate being able to use something I've paid for.

But you've taken that out of context

"You can always play your own games" .... at the same time as one other person in your family group.

This is an extremely good thing that MS could have made so much more of. I'd have paid actors to create a 3.1 children type household with several Xbox ones in them, and had Dad playing FIFA with his Son for which you would have had to buy 2 copies on Xbox 360, but now you only need to buy one.

I'd have had them pop over to his uncle's house, where he can play any of his games without the need for a disc. The discs can gather dust in a cupboard because they aren't needed now.

These are really good things. The only limitations is that you can't sell your games youself on ebay as you won't be able to transfer them to him until 30 days after you friend them.

You'll be able to transfer them to your friends for free, so you can trade with your circle of friends still, and you'll still be able to trade them in at game on the highstreet.

The inability to trade in at the small independents and the inability to sell your games on ebay are the only real pains in the new DRM.

I likely will not be able to do that with the Xbox One. The servers will be long shut down, the console no longer being able to sign in for it's daily check. With the Xbox One, your collection becomes obsolete when Microsoft says it does. Not when your console stops working.

I am not ready to give this up for the digital era. Call me old fashioned.

This isn't going to happen. They will use the Xbox Live servers which will still be on authenticating the Xbox 2050 edition.

If by this time the authentication method no longer works, they will just push out a firmware update which enables games to be played single player without authentication. Simples.
 
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Getting back to the games for a moment, I am really torn between what games to pre-order with the console.

I know, how many are confirmed day one games?
BF4
Forza 5 (confirmed day 0)
Watch Dogs

Should be good enough to start with, the wife will want some dance game BS but i'll avoid that by claiming im skint and she needs a xmas present.
Im due a sports game (Fifa,madden,tiger) refresh but historically the first next gen titel isnt worh tthe upgrade (Pro evo and fifa on 360 were barely improved first time but were still fun).

I got my 360 on second batch so i got DOA, PGR Burnout and GRAW with mine.

I only fear watchdogs will be like the first assasins creed and after about 15% in it gets boring doing the same side mission stuff over and over.

Is there a confirmed list of day one titles? im going to have to preorder some, dont want to be sat with a shiny black box and nothing to play on it.
 
No, that's not right. You and one other can be playing from your library. It doesn't matter whether it's the same game.

This is how MS lost the 1st round of the console war. By not clearing all of this up at E3 and shouting from the roof tops about what you can do with this sort of thing. None of this came across at E3 or their launch event at all. Just crap about the NFL, crap about TV integration, and then a whole bunch of talk about the games (which is a good thing)

Don Mattrick is not a public speaker. Nor is he a techie, nor apparently is he a gamer. He saw what Steve Jobs did with the iphone launches and thought "year i can do that" No Don, no you can't. Jobbs could sell ice to eskimos because he had a gift, an aurora about him that made people listen, and he had a talent for talking up all the good points and not talking about the bad ones.

Don managed to do completely the opposite with their first press event, and then spent so much time at E3 showcasing games (to try and counter the debate that Xbox was now a PVR and not about games) that they left no time to actually go through the console pros that they should have done at the launch event.

I'll await clarification on the 10 people sharing a game rule.

If you think the devs and publishers are going to allow that then you have to be kidding. They have won a cut of resales but will allow effectively 1 in 10 people to actually buy the game and have the other 9 play it for free isnt going to happen. too many loopholes at the moment so expect some "clarification" on this one closer to release. I expect they are letting this one go at the moment as its probably one of the only decent policies doing the rounds for the Xbone at the moment

Thing, is you want this sort of stuff ( the ability to share games with your friends and family) you've got to give something up. That something is the ability to trade games yourself on ebay, and the ability to trade games in anywhere, including to retailers to make massive profits on used games. The reason you now have to be an "authorised" retailer will no doubt be because you have to sign up a contract that requires you to pay money to be part of, which I bet will go back to the developers.

The shop gets a win, because they can continue selling used games, the publisher wins becasue they get money back ,and the consumer wins because they can trade their game in on the highstreet.

Its about selling this to publishers. Let us have people share their games with their friends and family, and in return we'll cut down on the second hand game crap that goes on.


This is the sort of stuff that should have been said at the launch event.

Movie renting, is now more or less a completely digital distribution method
Purchasing songs, is massivel popular via digital. With great exclusives to digital copies and services like spotify.
PC gaming through steam and origin etc.. is largely dominated by digital distribution methods also.

Console gaming had to follow, and it needed somebody to push the publishers into doing it. The XB1 will do that. Just like Hollywood needed kicking up the backside when the home video recorder came out and they said it was the death of cinema. The music industry thought mp3 was the death of music too, until itunes and amazon etc.. started selling really well.
 
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