**XBOX ONE** Official Thread

Possibly, but not for too long I think. The moment one shop starts selling them for £40 to shift more games, the others will follow suit. I think it'll settle at £40 a game inside a couple of months.

Yeah i think they will drop just like this Gen games started at £50 and i dont recall buying a game for more than £35 in years even the big games like FIFA and COD's just a waiting game. That said i'll still pay more when they launch because i cant wait lol.
 
Also, has there been any word on if you can be a member of more than one family?

I wouldn't be surprised if you were locked into one family and you're only allowed to enter a group with people who have the same address tied to their accounts. I really can't see Microsoft or the publishers allowing you to freely hop between groups of random "friends" theoretically allowing you to play every game without paying a penny.
 
Microsoft talking in riddles again :o.

Edit: Actually, you can download OS updates without have a LIVE account so I guess online authentication will still be there. Maybe you can login to the LIVE account but you can't access any features.

Im pretty damn sure as part of the XBL handshake that both authentication of your games library aswell as your standing within XBL will be checked. If you are XBL banned you just wont get access but your games will be checked - easiest way for them to 'automate' that requirement.

Yeah, that makes sense. I've never been banned so I've never really looked into it. Hopefully that trend will continue!

Also, has there been any word on if you can be a member of more than one family?

Nope, nothing yet. I'm very interested in that as well.
 
Yeah i think they will drop just like this Gen games started at £50 and i dont recall buying a game for more than £35 in years even the big games like FIFA and COD's just a waiting game. That said i'll still pay more when they launch because i cant wait lol.
Heh, same here. I just need to sell a kidney to be able to afford the 5 games I want at launch :D
 
I wouldn't be surprised if you were locked into one family and you're only allowed to enter a group with people who have the same address tied to their accounts. I really can't see Microsoft or the publishers allowing you to freely hop between groups of random "friends" theoretically allowing you to play every game without paying a penny.
Naah it will be address independent, not even MS thinks there could be upto 10 XOs in a single address, they are well aware of the bending of the rules regards who is 'family', its quite obvious from the interviews so far. Locking to just one might happening, as always we will see...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
I wouldn't be surprised if you were locked into one family and you're only allowed to enter a group with people who have the same address tied to their accounts. I really can't see Microsoft or the publishers allowing you to freely hop between groups of random "friends" theoretically allowing you to play every game without paying a penny.

They've allready said you can live in different cities and that "family" just means a group not literally family.

Read the link posted several times, I think it's in that one anyway.
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/06/microsoft-defends-the-xbox-ones-licensing-used-game-policies/


The reason you can't sell normall is because its total digital licenses. Which means you need a system to move ownership of said license. So it's a technical problem not a screw us over thing. What we get back is so much more.
 
Isn't there currently a 'Family XBL' subscription? That allows 4 people to use the same XBL sub? Not sure if it has to be all on the same xbox at the moment either?

But if I am right, then surely it'll be tied into that? Which means you'll all have to chip into the XBL subscription too?

Something like this random google result: http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/22/xbox-live-family-subscription-plan-available-starting-in-novembe/

No, this has allready been covered
For one, a family member doesn't have to be a "blood relative," he said, eliminating the extremely unlikely possibility that the Xbox One would include a built-in blood testing kit. For another, they don't have to live in the primary owner's house—I could name a friend that lives 3,000 miles away as one of my "family members" Mehdi said.

You'll be able to link other Xbox Live accounts as having shared access to your library when you first set up a system and will also be able to add them later on (though specific details of how you manage these relationships is still not being discussed). The only limitation, it seems, is that only one person can be playing the shared copy of a single game at any given time. All in all, this does sound like a pretty convenient feature that's more workable than simply passing discs around amongst friends who are actually in your area.
 
No, this has allready been covered

I don't see how any of that is different? The original press release says

[...] allowing you to share them with the people you care about, around the world.

It also doesn't say they have to be blood related... it does say

[...] the new Xbox LIVE Gold Family Pack will offer up to four individual Xbox LIVE Gold memberships [...] perfect for families

It doesn't say you have to be related...
 
Because XbL gold subscription thing is 4
It says the share thing is 10 and can use different xbl accounts.

So how can you say that "you'll all have to chip in for the same XbL account", That clearly isn't what they've said.
 
Because XbL gold subscription thing is 4
It says the share thing is 10 and can use different xbl accounts.

So how can you say that "you'll all have to chip in for the same XbL account", That clearly isn't what they've said.

Well, I am guessing they can increase 4 to 10 and the family subscriptions gives:

...individual Xbox LIVE Gold memberships...

So how can you say that "you'll all have to chip in for the same XbL account", That clearly isn't what they've said.
Well, to be honest, they haven't said much at all about how it is going to work - have they?
 
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Just no, that isn't what they say at all.
Or you missed the bit about adding anyone at setup or latter and that you need to be friends for 30days.
So no that's not what they have said or what is happening.
 
To be fair, if this activation thing is anything like windows, you just ring up, it says "on how many PCs is this software installed", everyone everywhere always knows you hit "1".....:p
 
The reason no one knows what Microsoft are doing is because said company are at the moment on a massive back peddle due to the response from the public.
 
They haven't back peddled about anything yet.
It's just usuall ms, totally inept & rubbish at press conferences and details. They can't back pedal either.
It all revolves around digital licensing.
 
It doesnt matter that you will be adding 9 of your friends and no family at all.

They've mitigated this because only two of you can play the same game at once. Because of MS mishandling this, its obvious some can't believe its true that they are going to legitimately let you share you games with your friends for nothing whilst still keeping your own right to play them, at the same time as they play using your copy.
 
Well, I am guessing they can increase 4 to 10 and the family subscriptions gives:




Well, to be honest, they haven't said much at all about how it is going to work - have they?

I used to have a family Gold sub, it was four individual gamertags. Only thing was there was a primary account, who could add and distribute MS points to the other gamertags, set preferences etc.

Like a daddy account :)
 
Isn't there currently a 'Family XBL' subscription? That allows 4 people to use the same XBL sub? Not sure if it has to be all on the same xbox at the moment either?

But if I am right, then surely it'll be tied into that? Which means you'll all have to chip into the XBL subscription too?

Something like this random google result: http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/22/xbox-live-family-subscription-plan-available-starting-in-novembe/
I guarantee it won't be tied into the Family Gold subscription. Why? MS have discontinued it....

http://www.polygon.com/2013/3/8/4080592/microsoft-discontinues-xbox-live-gold-family-pack
 
I'd say that Microsoft has been pretty transparent in their goals. They are just not detailing at all the nitty gritty.

And this might be on purpose (publishers, gauging gamer reaction etc).

Is this a good thing? Certainly not for me. But I'm a fickle gamer that hungers to find out information and figure out how things will really work.

Indeed, I'd argue anybody dedicating time on a internet forum actively discussing and reading about these machines is similar to me: they'd want that information.

Maybe this is their marketing strategy: So Microsoft have gotten lot of flak for their digital distribution philosophy. It's June 2013.

June
July
August
September
October
November


Half a year before launch. Fickle gamers get angry. Then this becomes dull for a while after a month (see Sim City) or so as no more really big information is release. They go about their lives and carry that resentment. Most have already stated this: "No matter what Microsoft does now, I'm not buying an Xbone" or "Too little too late M$" etc. Obviously it's all emotions now.

Fast forward to the end of September. Anniversary time. Microsoft starts releasing a bunch of gaming centric info on the internet detailing how things might work because they've just worked it out with publishers or something. How the gaming community will respond to this is anybody's guess but this will be the time when people aren't really that ****ed off any more and can actually read stuff that's being reported. Microsoft keeps feeding and answering all the info that gamers want. If people like what they hear, they like what they hear. If not, well, there you go then.

October. Start of the Xbox One advertisement strategy. Gamers got the info already. They've probably made their choice. Microsoft just concentrates on adverts towards the digital media consumers. Your iTune, Kindle and Netflix hungry masses. Advertise games to the gamers. The console to the mass media digital consumers with Kinect 2.0 as leverage and the "new shiny".
 
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