**XBOX ONE** Official Thread

Davey_Pitch said:
Yes, we did cover it 25 pages ago, and as I explained then (and as others have already mentioned), you can turn everything off. I explained this and confirmed it with links to an interview with someone with MS.

For the record, one more time, everything to do with Kinect can be turned off. It still has to be plugged in, but the whole thing can be turned off. Just don't ask me to explain why it still has to be connected if it can be turned off, as I'm yet to see an explanation about that.
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It boils down to an issue of trust, MS says it's off but they've shown themselves to be a confused mess of a company with links so data gathering
 
robgmun said:
It boils down to an issue of trust, MS says it's off but they've shown themselves to be a confused mess of a company with links so data gathering
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Sony have shown they can't properly secure customer details and like to spy on their customers. All companies have some black marks against them, if you took that attitude you wouldn't buy anything!
 
ah - sooo confusing - I lose track with all the misinformation and policy changes

Yes agree - both companies (esp MS) need to draw a line in the sand and come out with the defacto policy of whats on or not and what kit you are getting or not with the purchase (i'm thinking headset here)

I believe 25 pages ago before all the clarifications the mixed message from MS was one saying it could all be off with others saying it was off but listening for voice commands (which isnt off). This topic is a politicians dream as you could probably make any number of angles you could take citing announcements and interviews
 
Davey_Pitch said:
I think MS will cover a lot of topic at Gamescom next month, they have an hour long session booked. I'm still hoping for either a price drop, or an SKU without Kinect.
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They certainly still need to do one or the other, i cant see the kinect being dropped though.. nor the price when i think about seeing the article of M$ defending its price. But it will depend on pre-orders probably.
 
sigh

ok we get it MS are evil and want to steal your data, go complain about it on facebook or twitter and google some results showing how evil they are.
 
If they released a Kinect free version surely it should be cheaper than the PS4 considering the XBO has inferior hardware?
 
I'm not sure about cheaper, but around same price. The GPU isn't as complex. But the Xbox One has extra stuff built in to do with the TV pass through etc that the PS4 doesn't.
 
Richeh said:
If they released a Kinect free version surely it should be cheaper than the PS4 considering the XBO has inferior hardware?
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It's inferior but it is also bloated to kingdom come with IMO useless unnecessary features that ramp up the price.. Mandatory Kinect kills any chance of a purchase from me, I want a nice neat console that is focused on doing it's job of playing games first and foremost. Xbox one is like a jack of all trades, a master of none..
 
What on earth makes people think that just because the Xbox has Kinnect and some TV pass-through stuff that it wont be as capable of playing games as the PS4? Will it really hinder gameplay? I'm thinking not.
 
So it's all pure speculation from people who lets be fair aren't really qualified to make any sort of prediction. The Xbox is first and foremost a games console, I don't believe for a second Microsoft will release something which doesn't play games properly.
 
CliffyG said:
So it's all pure speculation from people who lets be fair aren't really qualified to make any sort of prediction. The Xbox is first and foremost a games console, I don't believe for a second Microsoft will release something which doesn't play games properly.
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They won't. From a purely technical point of view, the PS4 is a much more powerful console. However, I think in the real world, the differences won't be quite as big as the specs suggest, certainly not on multi-platform titles. It'll be the exclusives that we'll really see the differences, and even then probably not for 12 months or so.
 
Lets be honest anyway - developers are "lazy" in that the first generation of games will be such a jump from the 360/ps3 that the games will look exactly the same in my book even if the hardware specs are different because of the gain in hardware in this generation.

It will only be later in the cycle when they start to prise out every bit of memory / bandwidth etc that there may be a difference whether that is due to the hardware or the fact the Xbone has a percentage of memory in use by the OS's or the fact it has that fast switching between apps running.
 
jimjamuk said:
Lets be honest anyway - developers are "lazy" in that the first generation of games will be such a jump from the 360/ps3 that the games will look exactly the same in my book even if the hardware specs are different because of the gain in hardware in this generation.

It will only be later in the cycle when they start to prise out every bit of memory / bandwidth etc that there may be a difference whether that is due to the hardware or the fact the Xbone has a percentage of memory in use by the OS's or the fact it has that fast switching between apps running.
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Yup, I'd agree with that. Certainly an interesting time for gamers anyway :)
 
I'm happy with the way games look now and the significant increase in power and memory from these machines is going to make - particularly in-house and AAA - games look bloody fantastic. Let's hope they can keep those frame rates up!
 
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