**XBOX ONE** Official Thread

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[Jono]

damaged eyes omg I'm 40 years young been gaming my whole life playing at much worse resolutions than 720 and my eyes are still perfect

Me too... I just don't get this...
I can understand trying to play on a 360 on a CRT or something, cos that just looks crap.... but I never felt like my eyes were in any way "strained".

I've been playing games since a Sinclair ZX Spectrum and BBC Micro.. at resolutions approximately 20x20 or something haha. Yeah.. .just doesn't make sense.

Mind you my eyes are not perfect, but I can't blame that on 720p.

 

[Macro]

Had a play on one last night. I do like the new pad, but that's about it. I had a go on Forza 5 demo and watched some beat em up game, whatever it's called.
Visually I couldn't really tell any difference between XBO and 360. They were on kinda small TVs though... maybe 27". .

I think you're likely to see this a lot with both next gen consoles. We're at initial games, mostly cross gen or cross platform with devs only just getting to grips with the new hardware vs 7 year old consoles that devs have learned to squeeze every last effect and advantage out of. You only have to look at launch games on PS3/360 vs the most recent to see the changes. The delta will get clearer over the next year or two on both consoles.

 

[Mull3t]

Craterloads biggest 'I'm not a Sony fan boy...honest'.

 

[Chong Warrior]

My eyes are used to 1080p crispness where they can just gaze into the screen, when playing 720p you cant do that and your eyes try to focus automatically but never can because it's displayed like that.

Honestly after an hour eyes were strained and red, felt sick too.

What an utter load of gash....

 

[Craterloads]

I sit about 1.8 meters away from my TV so the difference is huge. I would have to sit 5m away from 720p to perceive it as similar. (which would be outside looking through the window)

 

[CliffyG]

Haha this is awesome. How much has mankind evolved to feel sick and get red eyes when watching anything less than 1080p......

 

[Macro]

You're forgetting that XO output is 1080p which is not the same as looking at pure 720p on a 720p screen

 

[Mull3t]

Haha this is awesome. How much has mankind evolved to feel sick and get red eyes when watching anything less than 1080p......

Haha. Just the fanboys trying to secretly troll.

 

[Metalface Mark]

Your using a pc and honestly telling me you can't tell the difference between 1280x720 and 1920x1080 thats utterly crazy its twice the detail and my opinion as i have been playing games at 1920x1080 for 5-6 years on my pc can tell the difference its not something you can just not notice on a 42" tv!

Im not talking about the xbox one or trolling here just it really is noticeable on a pc when 1980x1080 is a minimum for pc gamers, not so much on my ps3/xbox 360 when playing gtav as compared to my pc it looks shocking but i play it cos its fun (and its not out on pc yet)

On some games, it's hard to tell. Marvel was one or them, I assumed it was in 1080p and didn't really question it.

Crater loads is trolling saying he can damage his eyes, if that's the case how could he have played any last gen game which we know he enjoyed loads of

 

[Craterloads]

You're forgetting that XO output is 1080p which is not the same as looking at pure 720p on a 720p screen

No it's the same as looking at 720p on a 1080p screen, no one mentioned 720p on a 720p screen. TV's have scalers built in too.

 

[Johnnytoxic]

but the most churlish would admit that the comparative videos and reports on BF4 puts XOs 720p upscaled to 1080p on a pretty much on a par with PS4 version and some even prefer it. Of course going for 720p potentially gives you the option to use more effective AA/Anio filtering etc but let's not get into that nit picking argument.

So yes, "native" 1080p textures are preferable all other things being equal, but 720 upscaled to 1080p is not quite the same as directly running a game at 1280x720 on a PC.

Absolute rubbish, so sick of the Microsoft FUD that's doing the rounds.

Whatever upscaler your using it will NEVER produce the detail of 1080p....because it doesn't exist !!.

Those Battlefield 4 comparison videos were very suspect.

There is no need to settle for 720p multiplats, especially when the more powerful product is £75 cheaper !!

 

[Macro]

Crater loads is trolling saying he can damage his eyes, if that's the case how could he have played any last gen game which we know he enjoyed loads of

Ooooh.... well played sir...

 

[Craterloads]

On some games, it's hard to tell. Marvel was one or them, I assumed it was in 1080p and didn't really question it.

Crater loads is trolling saying he can damage his eyes, if that's the case how could he have played any last gen game which we know he enjoyed loads of

Because that's all I played early last gen 720p and that's what my eyes were used too. I've been pretty much PC strictly for the last few years @ 1080p which ive become accustomed too.

 

[baldmonk]

Because that's all I played early last gen 720p and that's what my eyes were used too. I've been pretty much PC strictly for the last few years @ 1080p which ive become accustomed too.

omg me and the mrs are in stitches

 

[Mull3t]

I played the SNES the other day and it's burned my eyes. :sarcasm:

 

[Metalface Mark]

Because that's all I played early last gen 720p and that's what my eyes were used too. I've been pretty much PC strictly for the last few years @ 1080p which ive become accustomed too.

1080p on a tv and 1080p are two totally different things as we all know, if it damaged your eyes then the government would have health warnings on every tv/console

 

[Shamikebab]

How long are the PS4 trolls going to be allowed to run rampant in this thread? Maybe the threads should be locked for a few weeks because they are just 98% stupidity at the moment

 

[Macro]

Absolute rubbish, so sick of the Microsoft FUD that's doing the rounds.

Whatever upscaler your using it will NEVER produce the detail of 1080p....because it doesn't exist !!.

Those Battlefield 4 comparison videos were very suspect.

There is no need to settle for 720p multiplats, especially when the more powerful product is £75 cheaper !!

You probably need to take a step away from the PC and calm down. Of course native 1080p may be better than 720p upscaled to 1080p all other things being equal, but then all other things aren't always equal and there's more to image quality than pure resolution. Everything from texture quality & compression, Anti Aliasing methods, anisotropic filtering, tessellation and a bunch of other filtering, make a difference and it's entirely possible (not that i'm saying this is actually the case on this specific occasion as having not seen first hand I don't know) that the GPU load released by stepping down from 1080p to 720p can produce better all up results of image quality if it allows improved filtering and enhancements elsewhere. Hell the contrast, sharpening, brightness and colour temperature settings on your TV could have more influence over image quality than the console output (how many people have colour, contrast and sharpness turned up way too high on TVs!!!)

The BF4 videos aren't suspect just because you wish they were, people that have played the games say pretty much similar things. 1080p I'm afraid is not automatically better than 720p unscaled to 1080p unless all other things are equal.

I'm afraid this is just like the entire "Mega Pixel" thing on cameras with manufacturers insisting 16Mp must be better than 12MP because it has more detail and is a higher number irrespective of other contributing factors. It's image quality 101 I'm afraid, no one element should be taken in isolation however convenient it is to latch onto a big number and assume moar mean betterer.

 

[Macro]

Because that's all I played early last gen 720p and that's what my eyes were used too. I've been pretty much PC strictly for the last few years @ 1080p which ive become accustomed too.

Think you've got problems, I've been playing PC games at 1440p for the last year so ner...