XBOX ONE Official Thread

phil_t98 · 23 May 2013 at 12:33

well what would be an acceptable price fee for 2nd hand games? just general opinion. I for one wont be paying 30-40 quid to get a used game working on any console.

Have Sony confirmed there plans reguarding this issue?

phil_t98 · 23 May 2013 at 12:35

HeX said:
I'd assume you'd still need the disc in the drive as an anti-piracy check, much like how the 360 does HDD installs. *shrug*

If the disc is still needed then I see the fee being small for using 2nd hand games, if it needs no disc I dread to think what they will charge.

Mr Men · 23 May 2013 at 12:36

You don't need the disk in they confirmed IIRC.

PLazarou · 23 May 2013 at 12:38

The anti-piracy checks will be done by the need to be online regularly. It would be silly for them to need to check for discs, particularly when so many games (maybe all games) will be downloadable.

mame · 23 May 2013 at 12:38

Unless the fee removes the game from the sellers account and transfers it to the buyers account. This is complicated!

phil_t98 · 23 May 2013 at 12:40

mame said:
Unless the fee removes the game from the sellers account and transfers it to the buyers account. This is complicated!

it seems to be getting that way, I don't realy buy 2nd hand as if I want something I purchase on day 1. thing is though I don't want the 2nd hand option to be a no go with over pricing as one day I may want to buy a game that way

ic1male · 23 May 2013 at 12:41

mame said:
Unless the fee removes the game from the sellers account and transfers it to the buyers account. This is complicated!

I'm guessing it does. This is why the console needs to be connected at least once a day so all these game licences can be checked.

Nismo · 23 May 2013 at 12:45

Yeah, I think if the servers detect a game is installed under a different profile, it won't uninstall your copy per se, but just deactivate it. That's why it needs at least one connection every 24 hours.

In some ways it's better than Steam in that regard, at least there is some scope for reselling games.

ic1male · 23 May 2013 at 12:47

Which makes you wonder - do the games lock after 24 hours with no Internet check?

phil_t98 · 23 May 2013 at 12:50

What if the games at e3 are mind blowing will this changes peoples minds over the xone or is it doomed already because of Microsoft bad decisions on DRM and always on connection?

magick · 23 May 2013 at 12:51

Xbox One will fail. Microsoft have lost the plot.

You only have to watch the first 5 minutes of the xbox one press conference and compare it to the ps4 conference to see they have lost there direction as a company.

Nismo · 23 May 2013 at 12:51

ic1male said:
Which makes you wonder - do the games lock after 24 hours with no Internet check?

Who knows, I would suggest there will be some sort of offline mode. It's something they can adjust in any case, or even disable.

If it is the case then t would be annoying if you have a net outage that last over 24 hours, but it's not like it's never happened before that that would affect games, so it's not unprecedented and unlikely to affect huge amounts of people.

phil_t98 · 23 May 2013 at 12:53

I do remember people weren't impressed with the PS4 launch, showed some nice games and talked about social network stuff a lot but no console

Nismo · 23 May 2013 at 12:53

magick said:
Xbox One will fail. Microsoft have lost the plot.

You only have to watch the first 5 minutes of the xbox one press conference and compare it to the ps4 conference to see they have lost there direction as a company.

The conferences were themed totally differently. MS will do all their games bumf at E3, whereas I'm sure Sony will talk a lot more about the hardware.

Who knows, maybe it was good that MS got all of the media stuff out of the way first, as from now on it will just be concentrating on games.

Jase · 23 May 2013 at 12:53

mame said:
Unless the fee removes the game from the sellers account and transfers it to the buyers account. This is complicated!

Unless the fee is actually the MSRP which has been mentioned then there would be no reason to remove it, both people have paid for it but simply used the same disc as an alternative to downloading.

magick · 23 May 2013 at 12:56

Nismo said:
The conferences were themed totally differently. MS will do all their games bumf at E3, whereas I'm sure Sony will talk a lot more about the hardware.

Who knows, maybe it was good that MS got all of the media stuff out of the way first, as from now on it will just be concentrating on games.

No it just shows they have lost touch with there market. Windows 8 also proves this.

XBOX ONE conference was one of the worst conferences I have ever seen. You reveal gaming console and show 30 minutes of some idiot controlling tv by shouting at it or waiving his arms.

phil_t98 · 23 May 2013 at 13:01

I must admit I do like that it will have all this media stuff possible with it but I want to see games now,i am hoping e3 will show some amazing games. I hope that Microsoft are listening and looking at the bad bad press there getting right now reguarding the Xone and realy ramp it up at e3

fingers crossed but I cant see it to be honest

kitch9 · 23 May 2013 at 13:03

Nismo said:
Yeah, I think if the servers detect a game is installed under a different profile, it won't uninstall your copy per se, but just deactivate it. That's why it needs at least one connection every 24 hours.

In some ways it's better than Steam in that regard, at least there is some scope for reselling games.

I'd rather they just charged pc pricing and stopped all reselling than the mess they are creating.

razerbwfc · 23 May 2013 at 13:04

Apparently, the Xbone and PS4 are a generation ahead of the highest end PC on the market. It must be true because some chap at EA says so.

http://www.linkedin.com/today/post/article/20130522214715-10904058-the-technology-behind-xbox-one

"Both the Xbox One and PlayStation 4 have adopted electronics and an integrated systems-on-a -chip (soc) architecture that unleashes magnitudes more compute and graphics power than the current generation of consoles. These architectures are a generation ahead of the highest end PC on the market and their unique design of the hardware, the underlying operating system and the live service layer create one of the most compelling platforms to reimagine game mechanics."

mame · 23 May 2013 at 13:05

Jase said:
Unless the fee is actually the MSRP which has been mentioned then there would be no reason to remove it, both people have paid for it but simply used the same disc as an alternative to downloading.

well then you would have no 2nd hand games at all. Even if you bought one for 1p, you are still paying more than new.

I think you will need the disc and a unique unused code. Either the one in the box or buy one online for £7.99 the same as online passes now

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