Xbox Scorpio

It can be a great source of information and they do genuinely try hard to verify rumours. Some of it ends up being bs but in the whole it is a decent place for info.
 
i only need battlefront 2, destiny 2 and rdr 2 running at 4k, will be perfect on my OLED :D

all i'm asking for and i don't care about price :D
 
ic1male said:
Yes, I believe every word that comes out of that place.
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Sounds like you fit in well there :p

Personally I don't think giving the reveal to Digital Foundry has anything to do with what the neo tinfoil hat brigade suggests.

It will be interesting to see how the future of these console "generations" pan out as on both major platform's games will now span multiple generations. I wonder how they will determine the cutoff for games.
 
The industry folk are great, and are the reason I regularly browse neogaf.

The general public that post there though, well lets just say that they're most peculiar.
 
Just thinking, I wonder how confident they are in Scorpio, they must be pretty sure of it to hand it over to DF for what I imagine will be a technical analysis.
 
No doubt DF will just have the guts of the machine and all it has to do is reliably play the games that PSPro runs at 1800p at full 4K and then it'll be called a success. Would be a big surprise if MS had it ready for retail by E3. Doubt it though.
 
Phil already said theres no big showing of it at E3, said it was to focus on games, so likely MS's own reveal sometime later.
 
Kreeeee said:
The industry folk are great, and are the reason I regularly browse neogaf.

The general public that post there though, well lets just say that they're most peculiar.
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Lol, NeoGaf.

Millennial SJW cry baby central.

Not to mention there is a HUGE number of left wing Brits who post there and seemingly their only objective in life is to try tell the world how crap their country is to foreigners, especially since Brexit.

Their outpouring of grief on that subject on NeoGaf has been on an EPIC scale.


As to the Scorpio, lots of people seem convinced it will get a Ryzen based APU...Just can't see it myself, but they may surprise us.
 
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I'm looking forward to finally having some information, hopefully i will help me decide how it makes me feel about early adopting,
I wonder how games will run at 4k, I have a PC with a 1080p and most games can run at 40-50 fps or better with AA turned down so im interested in how this compares, as a 1080 is nearly 50% more "flops".
Things aren't that simple and hopefully DF will give a good idea of how the thing runs and how existing games benefit and the quality of the up scaling.

Frankly i wish 3rd parties would buy into play anywhere and i could go 100% PC but still play with my Xbox friends, but if this is great its just going to make my "where to buy" games even more of a challenge.
 
The thing is with Consoles vs PC is that devs can develop to bare metal for consoles, not so much for PC so the PC has larger overheads, whereas consoles don't. So good devs or those that put the time in should get near 4K with good levels of AA etc provided the hardware can do it.

So this should be interesting.. If the GPU is capable and the devs use all available power, then this might just be a true 4K console, but the price will also be key. £399 and it would I think if it does do true 4K at 60fps for most titles and its a steal. But time will tell.
 
iv-tecman said:
The thing is with Consoles vs PC is that devs can develop to bare metal for consoles, not so much for PC so the PC has larger overheads, whereas consoles don't. So good devs or those that put the time in should get near 4K with good levels of AA etc provided the hardware can do it.

So this should be interesting.. If the GPU is capable and the devs use all available power, then this might just be a true 4K console, but the price will also be key. £399 and it would I think if it does do true 4K at 60fps for most titles and its a steal. But time will tell.
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I think the use of middleware rather than direct to-the-metal coding will become more common now though as you have to make your game work for multiple generations of consoles. These requirements might limit the benefits of to-the-metal coding.
 
Kreeeee said:
I think the use of middleware rather than direct to-the-metal coding will become more common now though as you have to make your game work for multiple generations of consoles. These requirements might limit the benefits of to-the-metal coding.
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Maybe... With them all using the same architecture then middleware programming might not be so much of an issue but we have seen how unity on PS4 struggles more then it should. Devs always seem to find tricks to get their games running better on certain machines, even more so for exclusives.

I'll be watching with interest. I have a decent PC, so if the xbox titles released are both PC and xbox then I might not need to invest, but if the titles clearly run better on xbox scorpio then high end PC's then this could be a certain purchase.
 
All the extra 2TF will do is enable Scorpio to run the game's PS4 Pro upscales from 1800p in true 2160p. Nothing more really but that's a good start. Depending on MS's policy, we might get 1080p games that look amazing or maybe some 1080p Scorpio exclusives. They'll most likely do it the same as Sony though.

It won't have Ryzen/Zen arch in it either, that's for the next generation.

Basically it's the PS4 and XBOX One all over again with the roles reversed.

I'll definitely be buying one and hopefully they'll throw in a 4K blu ray player too.

I'm thinking $475 (that could be any amount of £'s depending on brexit by years end).
 
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