Your bad driving encounters

99% of the time you'll know within a split second of moving in 1st gear if the car on your left is going to also launch anyway and that short window is enough to either let off the throttle and go back all the way round or continue on the throttle then merge in - Just gotta be on the ball is all :p
 
newer cars with launch control invented for that party piece - straight line heroes, it's the twisty bits that count;
test drives of my 3er m52/6 yesterday, latvian guy, pushing for that vanos punch, it's interesting being driven in your own car;
other test-driver younger than car, but drove more cautiously.

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TheVoice said:
most phones are always connected to and using data sessions so all that can really be inferred is that a phone was connected to the networ
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yes - but you don't think there is a timestamp on feeding a video stream in x/tik/utube .. it's all about your data and habits, did he watch 5s of that video ?
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Rroff said:
Was an older lady in a little white car as well but driving like a boy racer, think they committed thinking they could go on the opposite side around the traffic island if necessary and then traffic appeared the other way just as they ran out of room before the traffic island. Lorry driver said they were waving at him to move over like they thought he could just magic the lorry off the road. Ended up with the bonnet embedded under the side at the rear with the tail lift sliced into the front of the car, very lucky it wasn't worse - if there wasn't the LPD before the rear axels she'd have had a much worse day.
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Probably still blames the lorry driver :)
 
Had an interesting one coming home just now - initially thought they deliberately swerved at me, it caused my car to initiate forward collision avoidance, the way they turned into my side of the road but looking at the dashcam footage I'm not so sure - interestingly I also thought they had no lights on, they definitely didn't when I looked back, but I think they accidentally turned them off when panic reacting to nearly hitting me but somehow that gave me the impression they had no lights on initially. Did clip my wing mirror but no damage I can see - I think it was so slight they bent enough to avoid damage.

Not really sure what to make of it maybe they weren't paying attention, seems a bit overly reactive steering to just misjudging their vehicle width in the narrow bit there.


Unfortunately didn't get their reg, though did call the police just in case they were suicidal or drunk.
 
mrk said:
Kind of answers itself there, they were not paying attention or dozing off, sudden realisation, quick correction.
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I'm hoping that rather than for some reason intending to hit me and having a change of heart - they swerve out in a relatively deliberate manner before coming back across to their side at the last minute.

That area is where a lot of people go to retire who really should hand their license in - one of them hit a parked car just up the road from there a couple of weeks back.

It is interesting though - I'd have sworn blind their headlights were off on approach and they definitely had no lights on when I looked back in the wing mirror.
 
Probably DRLs, some DRLs look like headlights when recorded on camera due to the glare and framerate etc, DRLs on doesn't mean the tail lights are on and as they pass and you look back the DRL glare is gone so all you see is what appears to be lights off in the mirror. See it often people driving around with only DRLs on at night, obviously the interior dash is on as the DRLs are on and they are none the wiser until someone flashes them.
 
mrk said:
Probably DRLs, some DRLs look like headlights when recorded on camera due to the glare and framerate etc, DRLs on doesn't mean the tail lights are on and as they pass and you look back the DRL glare is gone so all you see is what appears to be lights off in the mirror. See it often people driving around with only DRLs on at night, obviously the interior dash is on as the DRLs are on and they are none the wiser until someone flashes them.
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You could be right, though looks like the headlight positions are on in the video, but it is only a cheap dashcam which is easily overwhelmed by light in the dark.

I'm leaning towards them accidentally switching their lights off when panic reacting to the situation and probably an indication of lack of attention or dozing off rather than something more malicious.
 
that's the problem with dashcam at nightime - you don't get the plates due to high contrast against the lights (and lack of ai processing like human) .. 50% of the reason I haven't got one.
 
Rroff said:
You could be right, though looks like the headlight positions are on in the video, but it is only a cheap dashcam which is easily overwhelmed by light in the dark.

I'm leaning towards them accidentally switching their lights off when panic reacting to the situation and probably an indication of lack of attention or dozing off rather than something more malicious.
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There's no beam pattern on the wall next to them, as there is from your own dipped lights on the left, just a bit of general glare. I reckon @mrk is on the money with the DRL shout.
 
Kenai said:
There's no beam pattern on the wall next to them, as there is from your own dipped lights on the left, just a bit of general glare. I reckon @mrk is on the money with the DRL shout.
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Good observation, I definitely noted *something* off about their headlights on approach then seeing no lights on in the rear view I got the impression they didn't have headlights on at all.

I'm wondering if my LED headlights plus being above them in height made them think I still had main beams on and they swerved at me in a lashing out kind of way - it isn't the first or second time I've seen that happen in the general area - too many older people with poor standards of driving and poor eyesight unfortunately as per one of my previous videos from that town:

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@Rroff - looks like they were always slightly on the wrong side of the road?
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They cut across the corner at the bottom, then went back to their side then swerved out at me.
 
Just had a short drive to the train station and back through town and OMFG the suicide cyclists are out in force now - all in black, no lights, no reflectors, flying out of side streets, randomly veering on and off the pavements, swerving all over the road... it should be permitted (arguably even encouraged) to run these idiots over.

Makes me glad most of my regular driving isn't around town, nor during rush hour :p
 
Kenai said:
it should be permitted (arguably even encouraged) to run these idiots over.
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You'd hope it would soon stop them doing it. Fortunately I've only encountered one problem cyclist in the last few weeks - I expected to see more out over the summer and issues in the evening post the clock changes.
 
Kenai said:
Just had a short drive to the train station and back through town and OMFG the suicide cyclists are out in force now - all in black, no lights, no reflectors, flying out of side streets, randomly veering on and off the pavements, swerving all over the road... it should be permitted (arguably even encouraged) to run these idiots over.

Makes me glad most of my regular driving isn't around town, nor during rush hour :p
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I hate ninja cyclists. I don't understand why they do it, they must be struggling to see where they're even going. I've noticed a few ninja dog walkers and joggers too. Imo everyone should wear some sort of reflectors at night.
 
theone8181 said:
I hate ninja cyclists. I don't understand why they do it, they must be struggling to see where they're even going. I've noticed a few ninja dog walkers and joggers too. Imo everyone should wear some sort of reflectors at night.
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I find the resistance to wearing high vis, etc. puzzling.

One of my colleagues had a close call earlier in a work van with a pedestrian all in dark clothing, no lights, here https://maps.app.goo.gl/CCU2FYQGBUK4K5Gi7 and are really really shaken up by it.
 
Trifid said:
Because there is some evidence to suggest it dehumanises cyclists and results in worse driving around them.
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Personally I'd say the increased visibility outweighs that, the studies also seem to be based on people's image perception and trying to correlate that to observed behaviours rather than people's perception as a driver and what the actual drivers of those behaviours around cyclists actually are.
 
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