Your bad driving encounters

Brun said:
"give way to pedestrians crossing or waiting to cross a road into which or from which you are turning. If they have started to cross they have priority, so give way (see Rule H2)"

I frequently cross junctions that drivers are wanting to turn into or out of. It often gets me a beep of the horn as well, but I'm sick of the entitled ***** thinking I should defer to them. Well done for calling yourself out.
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I don't think the debate is on Priority for Pedestrians. It is more to do with mindlessly entering a road without paying attention to your surroundings. I had one guy jogging on the pavement running in the same direction as I was driving on a 30 mph street. Dude decided to step down on the road at the last minute to go around the pedestrians coming towards him. Obviously I had to emergency brake and hope I don't crash into him. It is these kind of situations where Peds need to show more awareness.
 
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Brun said:
"give way to pedestrians crossing or waiting to cross a road into which or from which you are turning. If they have started to cross they have priority, so give way (see Rule H2)"

I frequently cross junctions that drivers are wanting to turn into or out of. It often gets me a beep of the horn as well, but I'm sick of the entitled ***** thinking I should defer to them. Well done for calling yourself out.
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Someone definitely outed themselves..

Your own safety is YOUR responsibility regardless of where you are or what you're doing. To rely on others is a Darwin award waiting to happen.

I think you should ride a motorcycle for a few years and you'll quickly learn that (or you won't but at least you'd be a lesson to others)
 
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Howling said:
Someone definitely outed themselves..

Your own safety is YOUR responsibility regardless of where you are or what you're doing. To rely on others is a Darwin award waiting to happen.

I think you should ride a motorcycle for a few years and you'll quickly learn that (or you won't but at least you'd be a lesson to others)
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Indeed, being a biker definitely teaches you that being the rightest person in the graveyard isn't an award you want.
 
tom_e said:
Indeed, being a biker definitely teaches you that being the rightest person in the graveyard isn't an award you want.
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True.

A tombstone reading "Here lies Bob. The other driver was in the wrong according to section 3 paragraph 19 of the highway code" doesn't offer anyone any comfort
 
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Howling said:
Someone definitely outed themselves..

Your own safety is YOUR responsibility regardless of where you are or what you're doing. To rely on others is a Darwin award waiting to happen.

I think you should ride a motorcycle for a few years and you'll quickly learn that (or you won't but at least you'd be a lesson to others)
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I've walked, run, cycled and very occasionally driven around London for 20 years without serious incident, because I *do* very much look out for myself. That's with regard to both vehicles and pedestrians.

Far too many drivers don't consider the fact that other road users might do something unpredictable as a hazard which should be anticipated. It's about time people stopped victim blaming and actually took responsibility for being in charge of the things which do the damage.

Leaning on the horn to somehow remind anyone to take care when crossing a junction is absolute BS.
 
Brun said:
"give way to pedestrians crossing or waiting to cross a road into which or from which you are turning. If they have started to cross they have priority, so give way (see Rule H2)"

I frequently cross junctions that drivers are wanting to turn into or out of. It often gets me a beep of the horn as well, but I'm sick of the entitled ***ts thinking I should defer to them. Well done for calling yourself out.
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I hope that attitude serves you well when you're sucking your lunch through a straw.
 
Brun said:
I've walked, run, cycled and very occasionally driven around London for 20 years without serious incident, because I *do* very much look out for myself. That's with regard to both vehicles and pedestrians.
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Good, but we're discussing people who mindlessly wander into roads without so much as a slight turn of the head (which I still spot and stop for because being stupid generally isn't a reason to execute people).

Victim blaming would be "they were outside therefore it's not my fault I run them over", not even being arsed to have the tiniest bit of self preservation instinct isn't being a victim it's being a tit.

I still remember when I was a kid shooting out from behind a parked car and the driving coming down the road leaning on their horn and giving me a load of verbal out of the window, guess what I didn't do it again.

If a quick beep makes someone think again next time I'll live with being a ****.
 
A child running from between parked cars is entirely different to someone crossing a junction. Do you genuinely not understand that they have priority, regardless of whether they're paying attention? Presumably by 'paying attention' what you really mean is letting the driver have priority?

Also, LOL at 'leaning on the horn' being revised to 'a quick beep'.
 
Brun said:
A child running from between parked cars is entirely different to someone crossing a junction. Do you genuinely not understand that they have priority, regardless of whether they're paying attention? Presumably by 'paying attention' what you really mean is letting the driver have priority?

Also, LOL at 'leaning on the horn' being revised to 'a quick beep'.
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I give up I have never argued they do not have priority, I have never not given them priority, I have never not stopped in ample time for them, like I said wondering around with your head up your arse isn't a reason to be run over.

Also if we're sticking to the highway code wondering out from between a parked car is exactly the same, once you're on the road you've got priority as the more vulnerable user.

Ok I'll give you that one, badly worded in the first instance.
 
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Brun said:
I've walked, run, cycled and very occasionally driven around London for 20 years without serious incident, because I *do* very much look out for myself. That's with regard to both vehicles and pedestrians.

Far too many drivers don't consider the fact that other road users might do something unpredictable as a hazard which should be anticipated. It's about time people stopped victim blaming and actually took responsibility for being in charge of the things which do the damage.

Leaning on the horn to somehow remind anyone to take care when crossing a junction is absolute BS.
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Do you run across junctions at pace without looking?
 
Trifid said:
Really just wanting to point out the huge anti cyclist mentality when it is a great away to do short trips and leave roads for trips that actually need a car, which we will all benefit from. It really shows in this thread about bad driving that you all can't get away from 'what about cyclists'. I don't think this thread has seen so many posts in such a short amount of time.
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Thread is about bad driving encounters.

This doesn't preclude posters from posting about poor encounters with other road users, whilst they're driving.

It is therefore perfectly fine to moan about pedestrians, cyclists, horse riders etc who have or have not done something that has caused an issue.


Your 'holier than thou' tirades because someone mentioned poor cycling are far from warranted nor wanted. No-one wants to drink your Kool-aid.
 
Rather rude and I'm sorry you feel that way, but come to expect that from you Resident, which is why you are on the ignore list.

You might want to check the original post again, it is clearly about bad driving and not cyclists wearing high vis. I'm sure some detours are all good, but it has been taken over by people who can't handle seeing a bicycle (I've noted the irony). And just for the record, I am a driver too.

Anyway, I'll check out again to cool the thread down.

As per the OP:
So post your encounters with dodgy drivers in here.
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Trifid said:
has been taken over by people who can't handle seeing a bicycle
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Or not see them, because they're idiots and insist on wearing black with no lights on whilst they're riding around traffic in the dark.

But yeah, it's definitely the people driving the cars that are the problem here :rolleyes:
 
Trifid said:
Really just wanting to point out the huge anti cyclist mentality when it is a great away to do short trips and leave roads for trips that actually need a car, which we will all benefit from. It really shows in this thread about bad driving that you all can't get away from 'what about cyclists'. I don't think this thread has seen so many posts in such a short amount of time.
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There are loads of instances in this thread where I've pointed out other driver's poor standards when encountering cyclists... but a lot of what you are talking about doesn't really work outside of London and certain other types of dense urban areas - for example the towns around where I live have vast amounts of traffic coming and going from nearby rural areas where cycling (or other forms of transport) just isn't a feasible alternative for those drivers anyway.
 
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Trifid said:
Rather rude and I'm sorry you feel that way, but come to expect that from you Resident, which is why you are on the ignore list.

You might want to check the original post again, it is clearly about bad driving and not cyclists wearing high vis. I'm sure some detours are all good, but it has been taken over by people who can't handle seeing a bicycle (I've noted the irony). And just for the record, I am a driver too.

Anyway, I'll check out again to cool the thread down.

As per the OP:
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Oh noes. I'm devastated. I may have to take a break from the forum in order to recover mentally.
 
Dreading posting this one in case Trifid has an aneurysm.

This morning, waiting on a downhill slope at some temporary lights. I can see a reflection of the opposing light and they change so I release the handbrake and hold the footbrake and a little throttle just to bite the gearbox.

My light changes and I go to set off but a corner of my eye flinch told me to tap the brake again.

The cause of the eye flinch. A cyclist willing to commit suicide/double murder as he came flying down the hill, undertook me and straight through the lights. Why a double murder? Well it was a cargo-bike and he had 2 young kids in the bucket.

At the speed he was going there was no chance he was going to stop for the red light had it not changed. I dread to think what would have happened if I'd not paid attention to the corner of my eye.

I've reported the incident to 101 and shockingly the call handler knew who the cyclist was from my description of him and the bike as 'he's been spoken to a number of times about his riding' although this was the first time kids had been mentioned. I hope Social Services get involved tbh.
 
Kenai said:
Back to my original post that sparked the conversation, it makes an absolute world of difference to drivers compared to the morons with no lights and dressed in black - you stand at least half a chance of seeing them as they fly out of side road without hesitation into flowing traffic.

I do agreed engineered solutions would be better though, that prevent them blindly joining traffic in the first place, then they can make themselves as invisible as they want.
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My understanding is that studies and data have shown that high-vis doesn't really improve cyclist safety. Road users might see them but it doesn't change how they behave around them.
 
Evidently more support for cycling in dark clothes with no lights at night than I expected, crack on I guess, if people are really that opposed to being seen.
 
Had a close call today and hence reiterating my insistence on Shoulder Checks while switching lanes. Here's why..

I was on the slip road to join M6 South J10 from M62. The slip road converts to Lane 1 ahead. Was trundling at 45-50 mph due to traffic and doing usual checks for switching lanes. In Lane 2 diagonally behind is a big lorry. I see a white Fiesta come from lane 3 indicating and switching to Lane 2. The gap where I was about to go from Lane 1 is now gone. Then this lady decides to indicate left to come to Lane 1 and begins her move while the rear bumper of her Fiesta is still near my right wing mirror. Had to brake hard else it was 100% collision. Never have I given such a long blast of horn to someone. Got an apologetic hazard light flash but what if still ringing in my head. Will sleep over it. I can't fathom how can you not see me when you were just beside my car few seconds ago.

Also, noticed two cars lane wandering. Probably on phone or just feeling sleepy as clocks have changed and suddenly driving is as difficult as rocket science. I gave two flashes of headlight to make them aware/wake them up. Don't know if that is right or wrong to do but I noticed the others cars suddenly drove properly. For context they went on the rumble strip 2-3 times near the hard shoulder for me to flash lights.
 
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