Your bad driving encounters

Did you pay attention to other replies or just hone in on what you wanted to see?

No but, given you were leaning heavily on the GPS reading when defending yourself against @Rroff posts, why can't it be leaned on to demonstrate you were likely technically speeding :confused:

73 GPS could also be 70 actual, even Roff has mentioned GPS isn't always right, but GPS is still the most reliable, though depending on outside conditions, can be off either side. It's still more accurate than the actual car speedo though when at motorway speeds.

Oh, I agree. I was using 73MPH as this is the speed you believe you were doing. Whether a proper calibrated measurement would indicate you were doing 68MPH or 78MPH is largely irrelevant - You believed you were doing 73MPH. It doesn't matter if, as you state, "3MPH isn't going to trigger anything on the motorway, not any speed camera, not any traffic car camera, nothing. Visually it won't even be discernible from 70MPH", its above the speed limit and therefore breaking the law.


I would have flashed you if you passed me doing that ;) :p (I'm saying it before some other smart-arse says it :cry:)
 
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70mph isn't the limit anyway
your speed was considered unsafe based on the current road conditions, such as weather, visibility, road surface, or heavy traffic, and you should have been driving significantly slower to maintain control and avoid hazards
 
its above the speed limit and therefore breaking the law.
You don't know that though, like we have been discussing already above, the 3mph is just a variance, but it's the fairest variance, depending on outside conditions that indicated GPS 73 could also be actual 70 for example, but it's still more accurate than the speedo needle in the car which is the case for most cars. If I was speeding then I’d have to be going a lot over which would trigger speed alerts which would be heard in the video. 3MPH either side is within the side of safe caution and doesn't really mean anything here.

My position was based on people alluding to me doing something seemingly like 80+ which is obviously not the case at all hence standing my ground and stating the obvious reasons as to why that isn't possible. The other traffic in the video doing HGV speeds as evidenced by them moving in unison, meanwhile I'm doing quite a bit more at an indicated 73 which on a wide angle video looks much faster as I pass slow speed traffic.

Don't be one of those flasher drivers :p Just because someone overtook when they are going really slow (which is fine) as that's what they feel is safe for their vehicle and experience etc. Meanwhile I'm fully aware of me and my car's abilities in even worse conditions and am fully alert of the surroundings so can still make steady progress in control and safely. I'm much happier overtaking slow moving traffic then falling back into lane 1 and continuing cruising without having my windscreen blasted with road spray by traffic in front. Which is exactly what i was doing in the clip without impacting anyone else unreasonably. As a driver you determine what is safe based on multiple factors, not just "oh it's wet I must do 54mph now and sit behind everyone at 3am" etc.

Edit* And I cannot fathom that it has gone on this long with this, well what is it, a debate and one troll???
 
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Next time you lot get just the bare minimum, clearly giving more scene setting or info than fashionable does no good for some of you :cry:
 
Standard - I park my truck up in an out the way corner of a half empty car park and 5 minutes later someone squeezes in right next to me...
 
Standard - I park my truck up in an out the way corner of a half empty car park and 5 minutes later someone squeezes in right next to me...
Or they could just be doing it for photo purposes on how big the cars are now and how unnecessarily large your truck is, for reddit points that is. :D

Kidding.. people are weird.
 
Or they could just be doing it for photo purposes on how big the cars are now and how unnecessarily large your truck is, for reddit points that is. :D

Kidding.. people are weird.

To be fair I was taking up more than one parking space due to length! but as the car park was half empty and unlikely to get any busier I didn't bother moving to the larger bays at the top.

I actually saw 2 more people doing it in the 3-4 hours I was parked there after leaving the vehicle, quite puzzling as it meant they have to walk an extra 20-25m to get anywhere and there was loads of good parking spaces unused.

EDIT: On a related note though it still amuses me how often when I'm driving the truck people far more often think twice on pulling out on me compared to driving a normal car but it isn't a magic bullet - I had someone do it tonight then just sit there dawdling along at 40-50MPH in a wide open NSL... was nothing behind me for miles either.
 
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I had someone do it tonight then just sit there dawdling along at 40-50MPH in a wide open NSL... was nothing behind me for miles either.
I'ts amazing how often that happens. It's like 'wtf, you couldn't wait ten seconds!'

The lights are all out on a major island here, have been on and off for weeks. Apparently the traffic is flowing much better without them :D
 
The lights are all out on a major island here, have been on and off for weeks. Apparently the traffic is flowing much better without them :D
That happens a lot in Milton Keynes. There's a couple of awful roundabouts with traffic lights on them that cause more traffic than they solve. Either it's quiet and you end up sitting there waiting for no reason, or it's busy and the traffic backs up so much that it blocks exits further around the roundabout, so no one ends up being able to move.

Every time the lights fail it makes everything flow so much better for those few glorious weeks. It's almost worth nipping out with a set of wire cutters sometimes...
 
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On a related note though it still amuses me how often when I'm driving the truck people far more often think twice on pulling out on me compared to driving a normal car but it isn't a magic bullet - I had someone do it tonight then just sit there dawdling along at 40-50MPH in a wide open NSL... was nothing behind me for miles either.
Someone did this to me just now, rushed out from the right onto a wide free flowing main road, then proceeded to make it up to 20mph and idle down to a stop. I did wonder if they were doing some kind of brake check because I dared to actually drive at 30mph in a 30. Eventually they rolled forward a bit, indicated right and turned. Not a soul behind me, they just really needed to get to that industrial estate slowly but ahead of me.
 
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On a related note though it still amuses me how often when I'm driving the truck people far more often think twice on pulling out on me compared to driving a normal car but it isn't a magic bullet - I had someone do it tonight then just sit there dawdling along at 40-50MPH in a wide open NSL... was nothing behind me for miles either.

Sadly it seems this doesn't happen with buses. They have to get out in front no matter what.

For my garage, in January, there were 17 collisions.

2 were bus-driver at fault
3 were rear-end shunts by other vehicles
4 were side impacts (other vehicle T-boning the bus)
3 were pull-outs, one being at a staggered junction, vehicle pulled out on the bus and then stopped dead to turn right.
5 were other vehicles attempting to race down the outside at a merge point and side-swiping the bus.
 
Sadly it seems this doesn't happen with buses. They have to get out in front no matter what.

For my garage, in January, there were 17 collisions.

2 were bus-driver at fault
3 were rear-end shunts by other vehicles
4 were side impacts (other vehicle T-boning the bus)
3 were pull-outs, one being at a staggered junction, vehicle pulled out on the bus and then stopped dead to turn right.
5 were other vehicles attempting to race down the outside at a merge point and side-swiping the bus.
I reckon that bottom one is common across lgvs and hgvs as well. I reckon everyone here is guilty of it at some point, especially if it's going up to a fast road (just most don't result in a hit).
 
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Sadly it seems this doesn't happen with buses. They have to get out in front no matter what.

For my garage, in January, there were 17 collisions.

2 were bus-driver at fault
3 were rear-end shunts by other vehicles
4 were side impacts (other vehicle T-boning the bus)
3 were pull-outs, one being at a staggered junction, vehicle pulled out on the bus and then stopped dead to turn right.
5 were other vehicles attempting to race down the outside at a merge point and side-swiping the bus.
Who determines the party at fault?

Maybe I'm just using Norfolk bus drivers as my frame of reference but I find it hard to believe it is a particularly common occurrence for a car to just drive into the side of a bus at a merge point. The bus driver reacting to someone "pushing in" on the other hand...
 
not sure if bad driving or just toss pot driver but on way to swimming this morning.... i was late as usual as was stupid early in the morning before work....

driving down the road with cars parked on both sides (inc some on double yellows but that is always the case so i ignore that now). Mr White van man decided even tho i was committed and halfway down the hill coming towards him he would just block the road then stop and make me reverse. all he had to do was back up 6 feet (or just left the gap given he should have seen me way in advance) (i am not even exaggerating it was half a car length before the road cleared both sides and i could have gotten past but he just sat there and refused.... forcing me to reverse back up the hill about 75 metres and i had cars behind me as well.
an utter moron of a man. i do not understand the logic of some people. i was tempted to get out and tell him to reverse but that would likely just start an argument with him which i suspect him and his passenger mate were hoping for just that.
 
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