Soldato
That almost looks deliberate?!
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That almost looks deliberate?!
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Yes it does look it but I'm pretty sure it wasn't. No malice involved. I suspect by the look of that driving the culprit was well over the alcohol limit. My guess is he may have had difficulty walking. Let alone driving. Hence, I guess, the drive away.
P.s. My neighbour got his reg. Driver is local and my neighbour had a word with him next day. Bet he had a hangover.
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I thought it was first to the cars had right of way regardless of side (although first to the cars can be ambiguous).
On a separate note, I'm noticing more people setting off on roundabouts when I'm already on them. If it was a video game I'd say they had some sort of reaction lag, as I'm on the roundabout for a good 3 or 4 seconds before they set off and on occasion I've had to slam on.
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she saw me, she should have stopped since she had no remit to proceed as I was already moving, she didn't. fail 1
She carries on, I slow down and she then had an opportunity to move into a gap in-between parked cars, she didn't. fail 2
she continues, and decided that I would have to move or she would hit me. so given the new hierarchy of road users that's fail 3.
Do that in a driving test and that's an instant fail.
It is how many people treat it but no - it is the same as coming to a junction if the parked cars are on your side you shouldn't proceed if doing so would cause a driver coming the other way to have to alter their driving. In reality a degree of pragmatism needs to be used. There are exceptions in some circumstances for large vehicles, etc.
One that gets me, though not necessarily bad driving as such. So many people who drive like the clappers on main roads and below, speeds often poorly suited to the conditions - but once you get on a decent bit of dual carriageway or motorway they just sit there.
Had someone today who'd coming flying up behind me on a country road with bends and not great surface albeit NSL, obviously not happy sitting behind me through the villages at 30, etc. though they didn't tailgate me but couple of times tried to position for an overtake but chances didn't come. Then when we got to a decent bit of dual carriageway they pre-emptively moved out to overtake me and were nowhere - I wasn't driving excessively fast but once we got on a decent bit of road where it was safe to push on a bit I left them for dust.
Had someone today who'd coming flying up behind me on a country road with bends and not great surface albeit NSL, obviously not happy sitting behind me through the villages at 30, etc. though they didn't tailgate me but couple of times tried to position for an overtake but chances didn't come. Then when we got to a decent bit of dual carriageway they pre-emptively moved out to overtake me and were nowhere - I wasn't driving excessively fast but once we got on a decent bit of road where it was safe to push on a bit I left them for dust.
Soldato
I was taught (both car and PCV) if there is an oncoming vehicle with an obstruction on my side then make an assessment, can I clear the obstruction without causing the oncoming to deviate from their course/speed. If the answer is no then stop and wait.
If I start moving past an obstruction and an oncoming appears, look for an opportunity to return to my own lane as soon as possible, if this means pulling in and stopping then do so. If there is no opportunity then continue.
If I'm the oncoming in the scenario then look to see if there's an opportunity for the passing vehicle to pull in, if there is one, continue, if there isn't then stop and allow it to continue.
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Wish bus drivers round here would take that viewpoint, their thought process seems to be..."Am I in a bus, yes, then continue regardless of the fact that I will end up wiping out the car coming towards me as I swing out"
Soldato
It's definitely not. If the obstruction is on your side then you wait until you are able to clear without forcing oncoming traffic to stop
Tricky one with this one - if there is a broken line of vehicles sometimes people coming the other way expect me to pull into one of the gaps - in a van or pickup sometimes it just isn't realistic.
Soldato
Oh yeah, sometimes it's not possible with a larger vehicle. Personally I take that into account when I assess. Although I have been passing parked cars and an oncoming car has appeared and continued expecting me to put a 39ft bus into a space you'd struggle with a Fiesta.
One time, I assume he was a hairdresser with a micro-member, in an MX-5 refused to back down. Engine off, paper out, feet on dash. When I'm at work I get paid whether I'm moving or not.
Soldato
Sadly we have a phrase for that. "There's drivers & screwdrivers"
Soldato
Can't stand when people believe they own the road because they have a luxury car. On the M40 earlier, I was in lane two, in lane three in front of me was a 308 performing an overtake and was getting it done in good time rather than being side by side for ages. A Porsche comes flying up behind doing 90+ easily, flashing their lights for the 308 to move.
Non idiotic thing to do is ease off, give the 308 time to move back into lane two and open up again. If you want to drive at high speed, knock yourself out, but be appreciative that you shouldn't have to inconvenience others because you come upon them at the rate of knots.
Non idiotic thing to do is ease off, give the 308 time to move back into lane two and open up again. If you want to drive at high speed, knock yourself out, but be appreciative that you shouldn't have to inconvenience others because you come upon them at the rate of knots.
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Had one like that yesterday. About 30 cars parked in a row on my side of the road, on a bend. I was going slowly as I knew there was a high chance of someone coming the other way and sure enough a Shogun came flying towards me in the opposite direction, driving right up to me to try to force me and the 4 cars behind me to reverse all the way back down the road. He could have moved a few inches onto the gravel at the side of the road and we'd all have fit through, which I pointed out to him but he decided to just sit there flashing his lights at me, so I just turned the engine off and waited. He got the message eventually and moved onto the gravel to pass us, giving me the finger in the process.
I use that road every day and am often in the position of the Shogun, I just move one wheel onto the gravel without even stopping or slowing down and everyone gets on with their day. It's amazing how certain people will go out of their way to cause conflict with others.
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The way I'm thinking is that if you've got there first and are already committed, which I thought it what the highway code stated (could be wrong of course). I see it on my estate, which is a 20 but people like to park on corners so visibility is already reduced amd the amount of people that must be doing 35+ that have to slam on is unreal.
It's definitely not. If the obstruction is on your side then you wait until you are able to clear without forcing oncoming traffic to stop
Soldato
That depends, if you can see oncoming traffic and wouldn't be able to clear the obstruction before they reach it, then you should give way, if you are already on the wrong side of the road when the oncoming traffic appears, then carry on - basically imagine there's a give way line before the parked car when you reach it (a bit like those traffic calming measures)
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Best one earlier as I was getting home.
Travelling along a one way street (only a short one) and come to a car who has just turned into the street from the wrong end so stopped my car and called out that its one way and she going the wrong way and needs to back up. She starts screaming at me that she's not backing up as she is crap at reversing, bearing in mind that there are 2 other cars behind me with a 3rd approaching. Pointed out that its easier for her to back up as 1 car (street she turned from is quiet residential street with almost 0 traffic whereas I was on one of the main roads through the estate) rather than me and the others backing up, notwithstanding the fact that she is attempting to drive the wrong way down a one way street. She started yelling some more and the guys from the cars behind me also point out that she needs to back up.
I ended up taking my keys out of the ignition and making a point of putting them up on the dash. Couple of minutes of this impasse and another 4 cars arrive behind me including a police car, officer walks down to find out what's going on, sees her stubbornly refusing to back up, works out straight away what is happening, has a quick word with me to confirm what's happened, tells me that he going to have a word with her and not to worry as I haven't done anything wrong as even if it was just me coming down the road I would have had to reverse further than was strictly safe and once she's out of the way I can carry on with my day.
Have to admit I kept my window open to hear what was going on and she was having a right go at him before she eventually backed up the 3 meters it took for us to get through, wish I could have stayed to hear the rest of that conversation.
Travelling along a one way street (only a short one) and come to a car who has just turned into the street from the wrong end so stopped my car and called out that its one way and she going the wrong way and needs to back up. She starts screaming at me that she's not backing up as she is crap at reversing, bearing in mind that there are 2 other cars behind me with a 3rd approaching. Pointed out that its easier for her to back up as 1 car (street she turned from is quiet residential street with almost 0 traffic whereas I was on one of the main roads through the estate) rather than me and the others backing up, notwithstanding the fact that she is attempting to drive the wrong way down a one way street. She started yelling some more and the guys from the cars behind me also point out that she needs to back up.
I ended up taking my keys out of the ignition and making a point of putting them up on the dash. Couple of minutes of this impasse and another 4 cars arrive behind me including a police car, officer walks down to find out what's going on, sees her stubbornly refusing to back up, works out straight away what is happening, has a quick word with me to confirm what's happened, tells me that he going to have a word with her and not to worry as I haven't done anything wrong as even if it was just me coming down the road I would have had to reverse further than was strictly safe and once she's out of the way I can carry on with my day.
Have to admit I kept my window open to hear what was going on and she was having a right go at him before she eventually backed up the 3 meters it took for us to get through, wish I could have stayed to hear the rest of that conversation.
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That's fair enough, and probably where the confusion lies imo.
^sounds like you cam across a 'Karen's. My kids keep asking me but I've never seen one in the wild, only read about them.
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