Your current Fish tank Setups!

b0rn2sk8 · 13 Jul 2017 at 19:02

Plants and goldfish are funny things, they most certainly can be done. That plant doesn't look too delicate, I'd be tempted to give it a go if it is established.

It really comes down to the fish, some will do there best to destroy all plants but others not bother them.

G-MAN2004 · 13 Jul 2017 at 19:11

Thanks.

They've mostly been alright with other plants in the past tbh so hopefully all will be good.

NoobCannon · 13 Jul 2017 at 19:19

Is your tank suitable for a goldfish?

Remember they are supposed to be in ponds. Grow the size of a small carp.

Dont mean to preach as im not innocent and kept a couple myself in a smallish tank. Put them in parents pond as they grew huge. Now they gotta be 4/5lb

b0rn2sk8 · 13 Jul 2017 at 19:53

NoobCannon said:
Is your tank suitable for a goldfish?

Remember they are supposed to be in ponds. Grow the size of a small carp.

Dont mean to preach as im not innocent and kept a couple myself in a smallish tank. Put them in parents pond as they grew huge. Now they gotta be 4/5lb

Massively depends on the type of goldfish. Where as common goldfish live in a pond.

Fancy goldfish don't do well outside in the UK because it is not warm enough. They prefer temperate to subtropical or even tropical temperatures. Fancy goldfish tend to be a fraction of the size and do well in a reasonably sized tank inside.

FL630 · 13 Jul 2017 at 20:33

b0rn2sk8 said:
That is some classic hair algae. Its quite difficult to balance out and remove naturally. I don't agree that it would be high phosphate, that tends to be a myth but it is a good way of selling phosphate pads. There is a lot of evidence out there that show that excess nutrients do not cause algae. It is much more likely that it is an imbalance of CO2 and light is the cause or a nutrient deficiency which is slowing plant growth. Algae also excels where CO2 levels vary a lot, plants not so much.

I would either use a dosing pump if your going liquid if you can't do it daily (ideally before the lights come on) or just not bother.

On a planted tank light ideally needs to be your limiting factor, but in a low tech tank it tends to be CO2. You want to cut the light down to try and find balance, but its really trial and error every tank is different.

There are a few things that eat it but other than amano shrimp I wouldn't recommend any for your tank. I'm surprised that you have issues with them and a betta, they tend to get as big as one.

The easiest way to manage it is manual removal and targeted liquid co2 using a syringe/pipette, its really good at killing algae with direct contact, most plants don't seem to mind. Turn off the filter for a few mins while you do it and then turn it back on doing it at a water change is more than fine. I do have liquid CO2 but only use it for this reason.

Thanks b0rn2sk8, this is what I've found also from my research. I'll see how things progress over the next few days and go from there.

Not tried shrimp with my Betta, I went to get some today but the shop was out of stock! I'll maybe try elsewhere tomorrow.

b0rn2sk8 · 13 Jul 2017 at 20:41

No problem, don't be disheartened if it takes a few months to get under control fully. Took me months to get one of my tanks balanced properly.

I just wouldn't recommend Cherry/Crystal shrimp, the adults are mostly fine but the fry when they breed get picked off very quickly. They are a little vulnerable when they moult their shells every now and then.

Unicorn · 13 Jul 2017 at 21:05

FL630 said:
Thanks b0rn2sk8, this is what I've found also from my research. I'll see how things progress over the next few days and go from there.

Not tried shrimp with my Betta, I went to get some today but the shop was out of stock! I'll maybe try elsewhere tomorrow.

Don't

My betta killed itsself by eating cherrys constantly until he got blocked so badly he died

b0rn2sk8 · 14 Jul 2017 at 17:28

There is a big different between cherries and Amano shrimp. There are no fry to pick off and Amano shrimp are massive compared to a Cherry.

Cherry's wouldn't touch that type of algae either.

Unicorn · 16 Jul 2017 at 21:05

b0rn2sk8 said:
There is a big different between cherries and Amano shrimp. There are no fry to pick off and Amano shrimp are massive compared to a Cherry.

Cherry's wouldn't touch that type of algae either.

Iv two amanos in my big tank and yeah theyre miles apart. Amanos eat anything also.. Literally anything

Spuddy · 16 Jul 2017 at 21:51

Whilst on the subject of shrimp. I have a planted 65litre with guppies and neon tetra.

Whats the best shrimp and/or other inverts for this tank - if any?

All the fish mainly hang around the middle and top of the tank, I'd like some activity around the bottom from an invert.

ci_newman · 17 Jul 2017 at 08:53

Some Cherry shrimp would suit that perfectly. IMO, the Amano are too "clear" to be seen properly in the tank. Some red cherries would give you some colour along the bottom of the tank.

I have a healthy colony of RCS although somewhere along the way I got a mutation and one of my babies was hatched pure black (on the top of the moss ball):

GTO656 · 23 Jul 2017 at 12:44

Hi guys, the siphon intake strainer fell off, with the output still flowing water, I put part of the strainer and checker ball back to where it was and the output pipe stopped and no flow. I'm struggling to get it to prime now for some reason. It is a Fluval 206 and self prime doesn't do much Any help? Thanks

NoobCannon · 23 Jul 2017 at 18:45

Lost my yellow tang today

been fighting a loosing battle with it as it just stopped eating for no discernible reason in the last week.

Will get another one at the end of the month and hopefully it will go ok with my flame angel. The original was added roughly the same time as the angel and they never really bothered each other.

FL630 · 23 Jul 2017 at 19:19

Sorry to hear about your Yellow Tang NoobCannon

Question for the planted tropical keepers. I've just bought some eleocharis acicularis for when I plan to re-scape my tank. I don't have time to do it until Wednesday, so how do I keep the plants safe and alive until then?

The plants have come with the usual wool type stuff wrapped around the roots. Is it safe to drop the whole thing (3 pots) in my tank for a few days until I have time, or is it better to keep them separate in a bucket of tank water which will go to room temp?

I have no idea what the wool is, what it contains or what damage it could do to my tank.

Thanks!

rebel rebel · 23 Jul 2017 at 19:38

That's sad news NoobCannon. Yellow Tangs are such awesome fish, with great personalities. Must have been something bad to stop it eating, most eat like pigs.

I'd have thought you would be ok adding another, once you're confident there's no lingering parasites in the tank.

NoobCannon · 23 Jul 2017 at 19:54

I saw no sign of disease on him thouroughly checked him before flushing and the rest of fish are acting completly normally And have been throughout the whole time.

He just stopped chasing food, and spent the last few days hiding in the rock work. Found him stuck to a powerhead this afternoon

Will definitely wait a week or so just to make sure nothing else happens, may even get the lfs to order and keep me a tang untill im ready as i dont have a quaranteen tank i usually use the lfs as one

Spook187 · 23 Jul 2017 at 20:27

Had a bad really couple of weeks, lost half of my stock due to ich, gutted like.

NoobCannon I'll catch up with you on steam buddy later if your on, seen your missed message.
Sorry for the yellow tang loss, mine has survived the ich outbreak so far, I wouldn't want to lose him such a awesome fish.

NoobCannon · 23 Jul 2017 at 21:50

Spook187 said:
Had a bad really couple of weeks, lost half of my stock due to ich, gutted like.

NoobCannon I'll catch up with you on steam buddy later if your on, seen your missed message.
Sorry for the yellow tang loss, mine has survived the ich outbreak so far, I wouldn't want to lose him such a awesome fish.

No problem mate. Was actually just looking for some advice on the tang. But obv times passed now! Sorry to hear about your ich, inported from somewhere or dormant you think? Hope the rest of the stock recover

NoobCannon · 23 Jul 2017 at 21:55

FL630 said:
Sorry to hear about your Yellow Tang NoobCannon

Question for the planted tropical keepers. I've just bought some eleocharis acicularis for when I plan to re-scape my tank. I don't have time to do it until Wednesday, so how do I keep the plants safe and alive until then?

The plants have come with the usual wool type stuff wrapped around the roots. Is it safe to drop the whole thing (3 pots) in my tank for a few days until I have time, or is it better to keep them separate in a bucket of tank water which will go to room temp?

I have no idea what the wool is, what it contains or what damage it could do to my tank.

Thanks!

Just to reply to this, many times in the past during my tropical days i actually planted the plants how they come, little black pot and the wool stuff all together. Never did my tank any harm. I bred shrimp in that tank which are generally much more sensitive to paramater changes etc so wouldnt worry at all.

mistersprinkles · 23 Jul 2017 at 22:26

ci_newman said:
Some Cherry shrimp would suit that perfectly. IMO, the Amano are too "clear" to be seen properly in the tank. Some red cherries would give you some colour along the bottom of the tank.

I have a healthy colony of RCS although somewhere along the way I got a mutation and one of my babies was hatched pure black (on the top of the moss ball):

Really healthy full grown amanos, especially the females, will develop a mottled brownish green color on their flanks in addition to the red spots. Not hard to see and fascinating to watch. Eat algae too.