YouTube prankster shot (lol)

Chuk_Chuk said:
Pulling out a gun and threatening people is a good way to get shot. In this situation, you either commit or don't pull it out.
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Why? You have the advantage, you have already drawn and are pointing the gun at someone, all you need to do is pull the trigger if they either come at you or reach for a weapon. Obviously you have to be prepared to pull the trigger or you are indeed putting yourself in further danger. If I had to choose between holding the gun on someone or being the other person I know which I am choosing.

Also I would imagine in some states just drawing and shooting might have you in jail. The prosecutors in this state obviously thought he over reacted, he's lucky the jury didn't agree with them. He has been in jail since April.
 
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Colonel_Klinck said:
Why? You have the advantage, you have already drawn and are pointing the gun at someone, all you need to do is pull the trigger if they either come at you or reach for a weapon. Obviously you have to be prepared to pull the trigger or you are indeed putting yourself in further danger. If I had to choose between holding the gun on someone or being the other person I know which I am choosing.

Also I would imagine in some states just drawing and shooting might have you in jail. The prosecutors in this state obviously thought he over reacted, he's lucky the jury didn't agree with them. He has been in jail since April.
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How do the police tend to react to people holding guns on others? I'm not sure I'd want to be waving it around when they arrived, but that's just guesswork on my part, as I don't live there and don't have a gun.
 
Colonel_Klinck said:
Why? You have the advantage, you have already drawn and are pointing the gun at someone, all you need to do is pull the trigger if they either come at you or reach for a weapon. Obviously you have to be prepared to pull the trigger or you are indeed putting yourself in further danger. If I had to choose between holding the gun on someone or being the other person I know which I am choosing.

Also I would imagine in some states just drawing and shooting might have you in jail. The prosecutors in this state obviously thought he over reacted, he's lucky the jury didn't agree with them. He has been in jail since April.
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I should clarify, getting shot by a passerby. It is very easy for someone to misunderstand the situation in the middle of a busy shopping mall.
Also you have now introduced the opportunity for the assailant to take your gun, or for them to pretend to leave you alone only to attack you once you put the gun away.

Craterloads said:
It escalates way too quickly, from zero to a hundred. There were plenty of steps inbetween being harassed and shooting the guy that were leap frogged.
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At first I thought this, but that is because we have more information and hindsight.

You have two men, who are quite aggressively intruding upon your personal space (One guy being taller than the victim). Playing some weird message and trying to intimidate you (lets be honest that is what they are trying to do). After telling them to leave you alone they begin to follow you. I can see the self defense argument.
 
Chuk_Chuk said:
I should clarify, getting shot by a passerby. It is very easy for someone to misunderstand the situation in the middle of a busy shopping mall.
Also you have now introduced the opportunity for the assailant to take your gun, or for them to pretend to leave you alone only to attack you once you put the gun away.
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Sounds like you are advocating for shooting people just to be better safe than sorry.

Which do you want to be? The person with the gun drawn and pointing at the perceived threat or the perceived threat with no gun drawn. Everyone should be answering the former.
 
Seems pretty tame to me. I feel sorry for you who think this deserves getting shot over, must have lived a pretty sheltered life!
 
m@rty said:
Seems pretty tame to me. I feel sorry for you who think this deserves getting shot over, must have lived a pretty sheltered life!
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Deserved it 100%, he was deliberately antagonizing someone who warned him several times to stop it and he continued. That guy was just going about his life and doing his job. Granted I wouldn't have shot the bloke but he absolutely deserved to have his arse handed to him.
 
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Diddums said:
Deserved it 100%, he was deliberately antagonizing someone who warned him several times to stop it and he continued. That guy was just going about his life and doing his job. Granted I wouldn't have shot the bloke but he absolutely deserved to have his arse handed to him.
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Well yes that's kind of my point, over here you'd likely get a slap/punch for doing that, but to shoot someone is just crazy.
 
Is shooting someone for that proportional? No, I don't think so.

Do I have sympathy for this prankster getting shot? Nope. I hope it serves as a deterrent to anyone else doing these kind of videos. Using a stranger as the butt of your jokes for clout or money is a disgrace.

Same goes for earlier this week for that Johnny Somali (not his real name, some American) who was arrested in Japan after months of harassing locals, anything from going up to them shouting "Hiroshima, Nagasaki" randomly. Even after getting choked by Yakuza and got knocked out cold by some other caucasian dude he still continued to do it right up until this week when he was arrested for trespassing of all things....as he filmed it.

3 years maximum sentence, deportation coming up as they have the evidence (from him) and Japan has a 99.8% conviction rate.
 
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Meddling-Monk said:
It's also very telling that they only perform such stunts/pranks in "safe" locations (where such actions could be argued away as a prank/joke).

Try doing that in South London; somewhere like Brixton - they won't just get the one shot/stab in return. You start something (don't back away when warned and looking like you're making them a mark), you better hope you can finish it, because if you won't the other one will.
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There's another youtuber I've come across that "pranks" actual gang members and dealers. I'm not sure if it's LA where he does it but yeah....can't believe he's still alive.

 
Colonel_Klinck said:
Sounds like you are advocating for shooting people just to be better safe than sorry.

Which do you want to be? The person with the gun drawn and pointing at the perceived threat or the perceived threat with no gun drawn. Everyone should be answering the former.
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Sounds like you can't read or have decided to discuss things in a dishonest manner. I don't believe for one instance that was your actual takeaway from my post.

But just so it is clearly written down. I am saying that if you wrecklessly pull out a gun and wave it around, you might make more problems for yourself. Problem that you have decided to ignore based on the fact that you didn't address anything I wrote.
 
jaybee said:
There's another youtuber I've come across that "pranks" actual gang members and dealers. I'm not sure if it's LA where he does it but yeah....can't believe he's still alive.

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The only thing is, there's a difference between this youtube video process and the OP one, this one is going in solo as the antagonist (and ready to dash the moment something seems off), there's no perceived danger to the ones he's trying to antagonise.

The OP one is different, it's two (three) similar sized individuals or larger going right up to your face. The one being antagonised is the one who feels threatened.

I guarantee you that if the youtuber in this video tried going up to their faces, he'd have been dead a long time ago. They know not to do that so they can dash and scream that it's a video as they are the one in the weaker position, not a position of potential strength (numbers and size), which would have got a very different reaction.

But cool to see someone with actual balls to attempt it, but they're still only doing it safely.
 
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