YouTube Premium

[Mekrel]

Well, you lot made me feel stupid for a minute... then I remembered... I've watched YouTube for 15 years nearly and never watched an advert... and never paid them a penny... wonder who should feel stupid now.

Who should feel stupid now? Probably the person who's clearly a returnee account but isn't doing a good job of disguising it with their aggressive and overly familiar posting, and then gets themselves banned on the same day within a handful of posts.

 

[jaybee]

Well, you lot made me feel stupid for a minute... then I remembered... I've watched YouTube for 15 years nearly and never watched an advert... and never paid them a penny... wonder who should feel stupid now.

Yeah....still you for not understanding.
People like to watch youtube on smart TVs sometimes in their lounge. Without faff, that means ads.

 

[Raymond Lin]

Who should feel stupid now? Probably the person who's clearly a returnee account but isn't doing a good job of disguising it with their aggressive and overly familiar posting, and then gets themselves banned on the same day within a handful of posts.

Imagine living a life where he felt he needed to create a duplicate account only to come back to insult people. Fun!

 

[loftie]

I think other apps can do it, just takes a bit more effort. I'm pretty sure one can get these apps on TV too? I don't know because I'm just a poor until now india youtube premium member...

Yea NewPipe can do 1&2. It won't be as seamless at a guess though. Not sure about TV because it's not something I watch youtube on, but anything that has the ability to install the normal android version of Firefox can have adblock - how that works on a TV though *shrugs*. I find youtube on my tablet and phone fine on firefox.

Not on a flight you haven't, not on your TV you haven't, not with the screen off and use it like a podcast you haven't. Not doing it without faffing around with work around you haven't.

TV I can't speak to. Firefox/newpipe will handle background playback, worst I've had is I've had to hit play once at the start - though YMMV with playlists, that's something I don't use. Flight newpipe has a download button on every video - not tested it, I assume it works. Might even work with your video player of choice.

At the end of the day, if whatever it is (be it premium/newpipe/browser) you use does what you need it to do, then that's great. If my/your requirements can be met without paying for premium - better IMO.

 

[Fluke?]

I'm flipping kicking myself. I signed up to Indian Youtube a few years ago via VPN after spending bloomin' yonks trying to work it all out, and have been happily paying a quid something per month.
Like many others using foreign Youtube I've been waiting for the great nuke and it did eventually come the other week.

However...

I don't often use my Gmail account so only checked it when my account was finally killed. Only to find that instead of an email telling me I don't actually live in India, the email was telling me my account has been cancelled because I didn't agree to the 50 rupee (or whatever - about 10p) price increase that I had been emailed about a month earlier. FFFfffuuuuu!

And obviously the link to accept the price increase on the old email (that I had missed) no longer works so am now left with a load of toss and ever increasing adverts.

And as @jaybee notes, I'm one of those folk who likes to watch my content on my TV though my sky box so no apps gonna prevent the adds on that

Moral of the story.. Check yer Gmail!

 

[--Mike--]

Well I had the dreaded email come through but with today being the last day if I don’t update the payment. So strangely they still manage to take the payment from my Starling account! Let’s hope it keeps working!

 

[Kohaashi]

Received the email today about requiring a form of payment issued in the Philippines.

Don’t watch many YT videos anymore and mostly use it for YT Music now, but we also have Apple One so I won’t be subscribing to YT anymore and will just use Apple Music instead.

 

[Chrisc]

Received the email today about requiring a form of payment issued in the Philippines.

Don’t watch many YT videos anymore and mostly use it for YT Music now, but we also have Apple One so I won’t be subscribing to YT anymore and will just use Apple Music instead.

yeah i had the same, but im in Ukraine. Im trying to work out if there is a way around it. :|

 

[matt100]

I've had mine.. I watch a lot of youtube including on the TV.. it's wandered into being one of my primary sources so I guess realistically paying the price (only for me, I don't need a family account) isn't that big a deal.

The thing that really annoys me is the price differential around the world given it's user generated content and that the ads really only seem to exist to irritate you into paying.

But the difference between say £5/6 once I'm booted from India and the full price really isn't worth the faff to me.

 

[Scarfacé]

yeah i had the same, but im in Ukraine. Im trying to work out if there is a way around it. :|

Same… it says I need to do something by 12th dec but my next renewal is in about a week so I guess they’ll still take that payment at the current price. Assume then I’ll have to suck it up and update to a UK payment method. I’ve got into the habit of watching a huge amount of YouTube over the past couple of years so going back to ads isn’t an option. Unless anyone knows of any better options or work around then I’ll suck it up and pay the £12 a month.

 

[Raymond Lin]

Same… it says I need to do something by 12th dec but my next renewal is in about a week so I guess they’ll still take that payment at the current price. Assume then I’ll have to suck it up and update to a UK payment method. I’ve got into the habit of watching a huge amount of YouTube over the past couple of years so going back to ads isn’t an option. Unless anyone knows of any better options or work around then I’ll suck it up and pay the £12 a month.

Try a different country, student, Turkey Apple ID with gift cards or group together with people for UK family plan.

 

[sk3lph]

I received "the email" on 23rd October telling me I had to have a local payment method by 21 November for my Youtube account in Argentina. I've not done anything about this and payment was taken for another month on the 8th November. So I'm expecting the auto renewal to fail on the 8th December - has anyone just waited beyond the deadline and seen the auto-renewal actually fail?

 

[kona786]

I've had mine.. I watch a lot of youtube including on the TV.. it's wandered into being one of my primary sources so I guess realistically paying the price (only for me, I don't need a family account) isn't that big a deal.

The thing that really annoys me is the price differential around the world given it's user generated content and that the ads really only seem to exist to irritate you into paying.

But the difference between say £5/6 once I'm booted from India and the full price really isn't worth the faff to me.

20 quid a month for a family plan is nothing really. Add 20 quid a month to your mortgage and no one would bat an eyelid.

If anyone's whinging that means they must youtube a fair bit. 'Cos if you didn't you wouldn't really care.

 

[j4ska]

Try a different country, student, Turkey Apple ID with gift cards or group together with people for UK family plan.

or just Adblock

 

[Raymond Lin]

or just Adblock

LOL, this old chestnut. Adblock is not off line play, or screen off play, or watching it on my TV or many many other things.

When do people realise adblock is a solution for YOU and not others.

If Premium offers only no ads as a feature and it is easily done on the TV then I am with you, however, it is not.

 

[matt100]

20 quid a month for a family plan is nothing really. Add 20 quid a month to your mortgage and no one would bat an eyelid.

If anyone's whinging that means they must youtube a fair bit. 'Cos if you didn't you wouldn't really care.

No I get that.. as I said firstly I only need an individual and it's not so much the cost as it is the volume/type of ads that feel more like a motivator to sign up than an attempt to actually sell anything.. and then the frankly wild global disparity in pricing.

In fairness, that may well be the case with things like spotify and whatnot and I just don't know.

It's also just the straight up cost, like it's double I think what I pay for apple tv and it's challenging things like spotify and netflix where I do have family accounts etc, where I suppose I would argue the content quality is much lower.

All that said I do consume way more youtube than apple or netflix.

 

[Scarfacé]

20 quid a month for a family plan is nothing really. Add 20 quid a month to your mortgage and no one would bat an eyelid.

If anyone's whinging that means they must youtube a fair bit. 'Cos if you didn't you wouldn't really care.

This is a wild take. What does it have to do with a mortgage, of course an increase of £20 to a £1500 mortgage payment is just noise. That’s like saying you’d be happy to pay £20 for a cup of coffee or a bag of crisps in Tesco because £20 is “nothing”.

I think it’s absolutely fair for people in the west to be annoyed that they get charged magnitudes higher prices and are essentially subsidising customers from other countries. At the end of the day it’s a free world and it’s upto people to decide if what they’re charging is good value for the privilege of not having to watch ads and being able to background play. However saying £20 is “nothing” is daft as all of these things add up and it doesn’t make it good value or fair.

 

[kona786]

This is a wild take. What does it have to do with a mortgage, of course an increase of £20 to a £1500 mortgage payment is just noise. That’s like saying you’d be happy to pay £20 for a cup of coffee or a bag of crisps in Tesco because £20 is “nothing”.

No your take is wild.... comparing one cup of coffee to a months worth of entertainment and education.

 

[Scarfacé]

No your take is wild.... comparing one cup of coffee to a months worth of entertainment and education.

Yes it’s wild (that was my point, so thanks), just like saying £20 is nothing compared to a mortgage payment on a house Also, it’s not really a months worth of education and entertainment, which you can get for free, it’s the privilege of not having to watch ads during that period.

Maybe if they started charging more fairly across the globe then countries like the UK wouldn’t have to be rinsed as hard. That’s the point that was being made and I agree with it.

 

[b0rn2sk8]

I think it’s absolutely fair for people in the west to be annoyed that they get charged magnitudes higher prices and are essentially subsidising customers from other countries.

The pricing in the ‘west’ is as much down to how much more money they can raise from advertising, particularly English speaking regions than anything else. Pricing in other markets is about extracting as much of what little money those people have from them while building a massive moat to keep competition out of the market.

If they take away the adds, the revenue from premium needs to exceed what they loose in the ads otherwise they might as well not bother going premium.

If you go somewhere like Turkey and watch the Turkish adds you soon realise the amount of money exchanging hands in exchange for your time is significantly lower. All you’ll get is ads for rubbish pay to win mobile games that look like I designed them in primary school. Back in Blighty, I’d get full TV quality adverts from big brands.