Caporegime
You don't, it worked fine on my current one.
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You don't, it worked fine on my current one.
Nope. Just closed my YouTube tab, connected to Algeria and then signed back up. Then deleted the extension
Eh there is a difference between having ads and being manipulative with them to the detriment of the user experience, at an individual level, to try and make people pay for premium - something they've admitted to doing.
And the site is considerably dated and not great for functionality outside the core player - you can't even do things like date range videos and searching your watch history is hit and miss, etc. something I'd expect to be spot on if paying to use the site in this day and age.
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Where have they admitted to that? Their key objective is to keep users on the platform so they can’t annoy users too much or they’ll just leave to do something else. That’s the practical reality.
How is the site dated? It looks and functions like 90% of the internet.
Date range searching is a pretty niche complaint for a platform like YouTube, particularly given the content owner can delist and reload at their leisure.
How is the site dated? It looks and functions like 90% of the internet.
Date range searching is a pretty niche complaint for a platform like YouTube, particularly given the content owner can delist and reload at their leisure.
Several times in articles like with the mess up with micro ads they've admitted to using methods to frustrate viewers into paying, YT has a huge established presence with little competition to challenge it and the only place you can watch many content creators - they'd have to go a long way to drive viewers away.
The site is hideously dated functionality wise anywhere away from the player itself even the tools for creators could do with a lot of work, date range search is just one example - if you spend much time managing your comments it is like being on the 90s internet.
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There are some alternatives but YT is effectively a monopoly in terms of the video creators it has.
Sure but if the option is being annoyed by YouTube or rotting our brain on TikTok or Instagram but ultimately not being annoyed while you do it, what are you going to do?
It's worth pointing out that the mobile app is now the main way people access the platform, the majority of people rely on on the discovery feed and watch whatever YouTube serves them next after the current video rather than subscribing and using that feed. Other social media apps which will entertain you are only a few swipes away.
I know I was here because I was using India as a wheeze but omg pay.
Pay for the thing you want FFS it's really not that hard. The lengths some folk want to go to to save about the price of a pint a month is crazy.
Also it's surprising the amount of folk who seem to have lost track of Google being one of the biggest richest companies in the world. That doesn't come by accident.
Pay for the thing you want FFS it's really not that hard. The lengths some folk want to go to to save about the price of a pint a month is crazy.
Also it's surprising the amount of folk who seem to have lost track of Google being one of the biggest richest companies in the world. That doesn't come by accident.
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Caporegime
Lengths you go to 
Literally takes seconds to install a VPN extension and sign up via Algeria.
Literally takes seconds to install a VPN extension and sign up via Algeria.
To be fair I was thinking the single not family thing.
Yes and then that gets closed like India etc etc..Lengths you go to
Literally takes seconds to install a VPN extension and sign up via Algeria.
And I'm talking also in part about some of this burner apple account and Turkish gift cards and omg stop
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Create new apple ID with turkey as selected country then one purchase of a gift card gives you premium for 8 months until you need to top up with another gift card.And I'm talking also in part about some of this burner apple account and Turkish gift cards and omg stop
Ohhh the hassle...
Man of Honour
The apple thing is interesting, the only thing making me apprehensive is that if it gets blocked one day, you could be sat with redundant i-tunes giftcard balance. Depending on just how much you went for initially, this could make this method pretty risky. Anyone got any thoughts on that/corrections to how my thinking is on this?
:edit: I suppose the chance of them blocking apple credit is slim to none?
:edit: I suppose the chance of them blocking apple credit is slim to none?
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Caporegime
They would need to block the payment method. That means it doesn't just target people like us outside Turkey, it affects everyone inside Turkey.
They would need to then implement a way to check your location to makes sure you are in Turkey when you top up, but this would be outside YouTube, it would be in Apple. I don't see how YouTube (Google) have access to Apple's location data for the user.
I imagine Google will have access to what you've paid and in what currency. I'd also suspect that, if it doesn't already, they could make YouTube request location data when being used.
Then they could just do something similar to what mobile companies do/did WRT roaming, where they see how much of the year you're in the country you're supposed to be.
Caporegime
For that to happen it would need quite a sizeable portion of users to do this in order to bring it to their attention. Lots of things can be done, but it is a matter of urgency.
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I'm sure the recent clampdown is partially in response to it being so well publicised.
I remember seeing threads on various forums, HUKD and the like where people who mentioned paying for Youtube were instantly laughed at by a flood of people pointing out that you could get membership in India / Argentina for less, and to pay retail price was totally stupid.
At that point it's inevitable that someone will notice.
I reckon they're probably waiting to see how much of a dent this makes, in terms of making it quite a lot harder to dodge, and then they'll re-evaluate in a few months whether it's worthwhile to put more complex blocking methods in,
That ain't gonna happen. At least not anytime soon.
Man of Honour
I reckon they've even go so far as to purposefully leave some countries open, to watch behaviour and also to capture those who might leave if forced to pay full price, but will stay if a slightly cheaper option remains available.
Yeah potentially. I haven't resubscribed, and every time I try to use Youtube I get prompted to get premium again so they might be waiting to see how many resub and how many give up.