Z390 ITX /M-ATX boards, any good ones? 9900K

rIcK · 26 Nov 2018 at 00:02

peppi4k said:
you are using the Z390M gaming Edge AC?
want to buy the Board too, but had some concerns that the VRM will be throttling the 9900k

Yep, no throttling from my short use so far. Seems a good board.

orbitalwalsh · 26 Nov 2018 at 00:09

peppi4k said:
you are using the Z390M gaming Edge AC?
want to buy the Board too, but had some concerns that the VRM will be throttling the 9900k

good 40 more then Gigabyte matx , less vrm but wifi is a nice touch .

its funny watching videos of the xtreme and master running without heatsinks , think Gene can do this too

IT Troll · 26 Nov 2018 at 00:10

Sounds like you got a result. Glad the MSI worked out for you. Assassins Creed Odyssey offsets the costs vs the Gigabyte, plus you get the better board features. I guess Gigabyte spent the budget on the VRM and had to skimp elsewhere, which is a shame. They could have had a killer mATX.

orbitalwalsh · 26 Nov 2018 at 00:37

Ah, that's a nice give away !
Surprised that haven't done an Aorus one .
Now all these rumors and leaks floating around about 10 core ..

easyrider · 26 Nov 2018 at 18:37

rIcK said:
Yep, no throttling from my short use so far. Seems a good board.

No regrets?

lowdog · 30 Nov 2018 at 20:40

Any updates on how the MSI MPG Z390M Gaming Edge AC is going, just nabbed one to build my wife a new system and hoping it's a reasonably solid good quality piece of hardware that will last in a gaming/work rig with an i7 8700 for a good few years to come.

rIcK · 30 Nov 2018 at 21:00

The board is really stable lovely piece of kit, no VRM issues at all and things laid out reasonably well to allow me to pull out NVME SSD.

Having some issues with my CPU staying at max frequency 24/7. Did a factory reset on my BIOS, low/balanced power mode in Windows 10 and still no luck.

I stripped out a lot of stuff from Windows 10 so gonna try a fresh install to a spare SSD I have lying around to see if that fixes my issue.

peppi4k · 1 Dec 2018 at 04:09

how can you say you have no VRM issues if the CPU doesnt hold the clockspeed?
about how much speed do we talk here? its just the normal stock speeds or any overclock?

rIcK · 1 Dec 2018 at 04:16

peppi4k said:
how can you say you have no VRM issues if the CPU doesnt hold the clockspeed?
about how much speed do we talk here? its just the normal stock speeds or any overclock?

I think you misunderstand it holds the clocks perfectly, rather than stepping down to lower clocks as expected when not in use. A fresh windows install fixed this issue though.

peppi4k · 1 Dec 2018 at 04:32

ah ok my bad, it sounds like you had problems with keeping clockspeeds, ty for the quick explanation

orbitalwalsh · 1 Dec 2018 at 08:21

rIcK said:
The board is really stable lovely piece of kit, no VRM issues at all and things laid out reasonably well to allow me to pull out NVME SSD.

Having some issues with my CPU staying at max frequency 24/7. Did a factory reset on my BIOS, low/balanced power mode in Windows 10 and still no luck.

I stripped out a lot of stuff from Windows 10 so gonna try a fresh install to a spare SSD I have lying around to see if that fixes my issue.

Aorus if you want to run 5ghz 24/7 with avx instruction set . Gaming wise , all vendor boarfd should be able to do 5ghz all core gaming just fine .

lowdog · 1 Dec 2018 at 21:28

@ rIcK any HWiNFO64 readings for vrm / mobo temps when loaded? Do you need a fan blowing over the vrm heatsinks to keep them cool?

Also how is boot time? MSI can be slow with boot time or at least my X399 MEG is.

IT Troll · 2 Dec 2018 at 01:00

With my 9700K running a 30 minute stress test the VRM is 55.5°C in HWInfo.

Boot time is fast, no slower than my previous ASUS board.

lowdog · 2 Dec 2018 at 07:41

IT Troll said:
With my 9700K running a 30 minute stress test the VRM is 55.5°C in HWInfo.

Boot time is fast, no slower than my previous ASUS board.

Interesting, is that stock cpu? what are the volts and load cpu clocks and what was the HWiNFO64 cpu package power draw under load. I just cancelled the 8700 and changed it to a 9700K. I can't seem to find any real info on the vrm for the MSI MPG Z390M Gaming Edge AC ......I really hope it's up to that task to run a 9700K with a slight overclock for 4 to 5 years down the track.

orbitalwalsh · 2 Dec 2018 at 09:00

lowdog said:
Interesting, is that stock cpu? what are the volts and load cpu clocks and what was the HWiNFO64 cpu package power draw under load. I just cancelled the 8700 and changed it to a 9700K. I can't seem to find any real info on the vrm for the MSI MPG Z390M Gaming Edge AC ......I really hope it's up to that task to run a 9700K with a slight overclock for 4 to 5 years down the track.

Should be fine, only if your running 24/7 at 5ghz or AVX then most board should be fine or not throttle when gaming

IT Troll · 2 Dec 2018 at 16:52

lowdog said:
Interesting, is that stock cpu? what are the volts and load cpu clocks and what was the HWiNFO64 cpu package power draw under load. I just cancelled the 8700 and changed it to a 9700K. I can't seem to find any real info on the vrm for the MSI MPG Z390M Gaming Edge AC ......I really hope it's up to that task to run a 9700K with a slight overclock for 4 to 5 years down the track.

Sorry, meant to say it was stock, so all core drops to 4.6 at stays there for the duration of the stress test. Volts fluctuate a little but max at 1.24V, power also fluctuates a little 92-97W. I had a play setting manual ratios and power levels but for day-to-day use stock works great for me. The VRM is 8+1+1 phases (with the 8 doubled from 4). I would say the board is a good balanced match for the 9700K.

Petrolhead · 2 Dec 2018 at 17:24

tamzzy said:
buildzoid on the z390 range. looks like gigabyte takes most of the wins this round.

if I did not know better I would have said he worked for Gigabyte

Petrolhead · 2 Dec 2018 at 17:30

Hope you don’t mind me jumping on your thread however I have the same question and seemed silly to start a similar thread.

I am also looking for a mATX for the i9-9900k

Must have 4 dim slots, 2 M.2 slots and good for overclocking, so a decent bios. I will be attempting 5ghz

So which one for me?

Seem that the Asrock is out. In one video the MSI was chosen in another the Gigabyte (however I fear the reviewer was bias). Then there is Asus, some about said Gene but it’s very expensive. What about the Asus Tuff?

Re gigabyte, I have a x99m and have never loved their bios and even though it’s been updates apparently it’s not much better:

tamzzy · 2 Dec 2018 at 18:01

cms239 said:
in another the Gigabyte (however I fear the reviewer was bias)

if you're insinuating about the buildzoid video, then i'm afraid you're mistaken.
all buildzoid cares about is the VRM quality, possibly to the detriment of other components on a mobo, but at least he acknowleges that
and TBH, i'd take his words over all of the asus-spnsored ~~shills~~ err...reviewers on youtube

Petrolhead · 2 Dec 2018 at 18:14

tamzzy said:
if you're insinuating about the buildzoid video, then i'm afraid you're mistaken.
all buildzoid cares about is the VRM quality, possibly to the detriment of other components on a mobo, but at least he acknowleges that
and TBH, i'd take his words over all of the asus-spnsored ~~shills~~ err...reviewers on youtube

Agreed saw the other Asus video and that guy works for Asus.

I hear what your saying but to the uninitiated, like me, he did seem very Gigabyte biased