Zen 2 Owners Thread!

[Tomuks]

I have a very bad feeling about 3950x stock levels wouldn't be surprised if it will be stocked normally only after new year

 

[Mercutio]

I might try and be good and stick to the 3800X over the 3950X. We'll see.
I do nothing that needs the other 8 core/16 thread though, depends how well they get bioses sorted and PBO doing it's thing.

 

[andy_mk3]

for u guys that came from 2500k-2600k, is the difference totally massive ?
got my 3600 sitting here lonley need board still

2600k to 3900x.

Or

Mini Metro to Audi R8

It's a huge difference.

 

[robfosters]

for u guys that came from 2500k-2600k, is the difference totally massive ?
got my 3600 sitting here lonley need board still

Good god it’s massive! I was sitting open mouthed for the first hour in amazement at how quickly it was doing everything. Cinebench R20 score for my 2500k was about 700. My 3900x racks up 7300! Basically over 10 times quicker.

But I’m not dissing the 2500k. Imo, that CPU is Intel’s finest moment.

 

[razorpakk]

It's poorly optimised, like so many Ubisoft titles. Great game though!

It's hard to define poorly optimized a game with great graphics (especially the latest dlc) - performance is in line with other AAA titles.

 

[Sin_Chase]

Been testing -Offset voltages more. There is no linear scaling at all and some real outlying results, especially -0.07500v! Power Plans and Idle downclock also seems to be affected by having PBO/XFR enabled or not.

 

[esoteric]

My brother got his 3700X build up and running last night. He upgraded from a 2700K Sandybridge. He's running it out of the box and his temps were around 35 degrees with just Origin and Youtube loaded and 0.9v and best I could tell from reading Ryzen Master downclocked to 400MHz, he's cooled by a Corsair H150. While downloading Apex Legends and watching Youtube it boosted to 4.3GHz using 1.4v but I don't know what his temps were doing as he didn't have software installed at the time to monitor it. At the time I was looking at XMP in the BIOS he didn't have Windows installed so I didn't bother to check if it was on or off. No idea what his BIOS version is and if I tell him to flash it he'd probably tell me to **** off.

He's on a fresh Windows 10 install due to getting the Corsair MP600.

If anyone has questions I'll try and answer, but I can say with 80% certainty if it involves benchmarks he'll tell me and you to **** off. He just wants to play and can we really blame him?

Oh and I forgot to mention he put all this into the be quiet! Dark Base Pro 900 Rev.2 case and put a 2070 Super in there too, moving up from a GTX 780.

 

[Rab]

Good god it’s massive! I was sitting open mouthed for the first hour in amazement at how quickly it was doing everything. Cinebench R20 score for my 2500k was about 700. My 3900x racks up 7300! Basically over 10 times quicker.

But I’m not dissing the 2500k. Imo, that CPU is Intel’s finest moment.

cant w8 now, should all be built in around 10 days

 

[Orange Nexus]

most reviewers dont like investing time to check stuff like this out...

True. They don't have the time.

 

[Duvar]

Also interesting, you can drop power consumption (CPU-Power) to 6-9W during Crysis 3 @ +100FPS^^ https://extreme.pcgameshardware.de/prozessoren/470191-sammelthread-amd-ryzen-1909.html#post9944809

 

[VortexA1]

Asus X470-F

I kind of sorted it now, the PBO appears in a couple of places in the BIOS, enabling it from one menu it is ok.

Playing around with Vcore now.
the lower I make the Vcore, the higher it boosts, but the lower the score in Benchmark.
Ryzen master shows every core pinned at
-0.15 offset = 4200ish
-0.1 offset = 4100ish
-0.05 offset = 4000ish

Very weird chips, have been on sandybridge for last 7/8 years and it seemed a lot more straight forward

Lowering voltage is not recommended. It harms performance.

 

[Nghtmare]

Well I am going to be returning my Roccat Vulcan 120. The software that you have to use to control the keyboard (Swarm) spikes the CPU voltage to constant 1.45-1.5v as long as its open, even as a background process. Clock speeds also stay very high and doesn't allow the CPU to idle. Ive tested closing it and the CPU automatically goes idle and voltages to 0.9xx. Spoke with them and their only solution was uninstall and install again, which obviously didn't work. Getting a Ducky keyboard instead.

 

[MassiveJim]

Lowering voltage is not recommended. It harms performance.

the theory is that lower voltage = lower temps and allows the cpu to boost more.

but read what I wrote, as the voltage goes down the boost goes down accordingly but the benchmark score goes up!

 

[Woodsta888]

My brother got his 3700X build up and running last night. He upgraded from a 2700K Sandybridge. He's running it out of the box and his temps were around 35 degrees with just Origin and Youtube loaded and 0.9v and best I could tell from reading Ryzen Master downclocked to 400MHz, he's cooled by a Corsair H150. While downloading Apex Legends and watching Youtube it boosted to 4.3GHz using 1.4v but I don't know what his temps were doing as he didn't have software installed at the time to monitor it. At the time I was looking at XMP in the BIOS he didn't have Windows installed so I didn't bother to check if it was on or off. No idea what his BIOS version is and if I tell him to flash it he'd probably tell me to **** off.

He's on a fresh Windows 10 install due to getting the Corsair MP600.

If anyone has questions I'll try and answer, but I can say with 80% certainty if it involves benchmarks he'll tell me and you to **** off. He just wants to play and can we really blame him?

Oh and I forgot to mention he put all this into the be quiet! Dark Base Pro 900 Rev.2 case and put a 2070 Super in there too, moving up from a GTX 780.

So you are posting in the owners thread because your brother has one? And you'll try and help answer any questions that he's likely to tell anyone to **** off?

 

[VortexA1]

Oh, on your post you put this:

Playing around with Vcore now.
the lower I make the Vcore, the higher it boosts, but the lower the score in Benchmark.
Ryzen master shows every core pinned at
-0.15 offset = 4200ish
-0.1 offset = 4100ish
-0.05 offset = 4000ish

It might boost higher but you're getting a lower score.

 

[andy_mk3]

AMD have said not to undervolt. You may see higher boost clocks but you lose performance from it due to how it works.

 

[Sin_Chase]

AMD have said not to undervolt. You may see higher boost clocks but you lose performance from it due to how it works.

This simply is not universally true. Please see my post above https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/32885009

Certain undervolting (too much, too little) can start reducing performance but there are sweet spots where one can reduce temps and maintain or improve performance.

 

[andy_mk3]

This simply is not universally true. Please see my post above https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/32885009

Certain undervolting (too much, too little) can start reducing performance but there are sweet spots where one can reduce temps and maintain or improve performance.

Fair point! I do think (hope) that as BIOS etc matures the boosts and voltages with become better for performance and power.

 

[lltfdaniel]

According to my cpu-z benchmark here > https://valid.x86.fr/sstwfq

I have beaten a 9900k at multithread benchmark > https://valid.x86.fr/bench/sstwfq/16

As for single thread same score as a i5 9600k > https://valid.x86.fr/bench/sstwfq

 

[esoteric]

So you are posting in the owners thread because your brother has one? And you'll try and help answer any questions that he's likely to tell anyone to **** off?

Well I'd post more about mine but my 3900X is in limbo along with the rest of the world my Taichi x570 and new AIO are sitting here wimpering for their mate to play with.