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Zen 3D V-Cache Ryzen CPUs May be Available in December 2021

humbug said:
Sorry if that comes off as fanboi'ish but its true and not for the first time.
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Commenting on AMD's legitimate resurgence and legitimate technical superiority is not fanboyism, it's simply stating fact. At a technology level, Intel literally have nothing that can touch AMD. That is not fanboyism, that is fact.

And in truth, the only people who interpret such as fanboyism are the Intel fanboys.
 
humbug said:
Its going to be very interesting to see what Zen 3 can do with that much cache to blow Ops out in to.

The CPU tech war is definitely back on with AMD once again making all the innovations that matter. Sorry if that comes off as fanboi'ish but its true and not for the first time.
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Everything about AMD has been impressive and every product they sell is technically outstanding. The Intel and Nvidia nuts will disagree of course, but it’s simply fact.

Recently AMD graphics have been the most amazing products. Nvidia had a much larger lead compared to Intel and in a single generation AMD are ahead.
 
Dg834man said:
They make pretty good space heaters amd are clearly lacking here.
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Y'see, Intel are even late to the party with this too. AMD did space heaters 7 years ago with the FX 9590!

God, Intel can't even screw up a CPU to the same level as AMD, although Rocket Lake was a very good attempt.
 
LePhuronn said:
Y'see, Intel are even late to the party with this too. AMD did space heaters 7 years ago with the FX 9590!

God, Intel can't even screw up a CPU to the same level as AMD, although Rocket Lake was a very good attempt.
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If space heating while gaming was an Olympic sports Nvidia would be world champions. AMD and Intel would get lapped.
 
jigger said:
Everything about AMD has been impressive and every product they sell is technically outstanding. The Intel and Nvidia nuts will disagree of course, but it’s simply fact.

Recently AMD graphics have been the most amazing products. Nvidia had a much larger lead compared to Intel and in a single generation AMD are ahead.
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AMDs success is really down to TSMC. Their Gpus while good only match Nvidia on a far worse Samsung node and they also have a node advantage against Intel.

If China invades Taiwan then what happens to AMD?
 
Joxeon said:
AMDs success is really down to TSMC. Their Gpus while good only match Nvidia on a far worse Samsung node and they also have a node advantage against Intel.

If China invades Taiwan then what happens to AMD?
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AMD success is really down to AMD.

AMD go back to GloFlo or move to the US with TSMC.
 
Joxeon said:
AMDs success is really down to TSMC. Their Gpus while good only match Nvidia on a far worse Samsung node and they also have a node advantage against Intel.

If China invades Taiwan then what happens to AMD?
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If China invades Taiwan AMD will be one little problem, much of the tech industry will be fooked and you'll see prices for many electronics double or triple and in some cases more than triple.

As a quick example - much of the worlds smart phones is made from tsmc chips - China blows up tsmc = no more phone production for 3 years while factories are built now imagine what no phone production does to prices of existing phones and stock...
 
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jigger said:
AMD success is really down to AMD.

AMD go back to GloFlo or move to the US with TSMC.
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tsmc has no advanced node production outside of Taiwan. 7nm, 5nm, 3nm is all exclusive to its Taiwan factories. tsmc will happily make anything larger than 7nm in the US
 
I’m not sure what needs measuring. RDNA2 took everyone by surprise.

Nvidia have felt the pressure to release updated cards and announce a refresh.
 
Joxeon said:
It's not really success in the GPU market though as AMD have lost market share to Nvidia.
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That has far less to do with their technical achievements with RDNA2, and far more do with the consoles using up the vast majority of AMD's TSMC wafers.

If the meager amount left, Zen 3 is simply far more important than RDNA2 GPUs.

jigger said:
I’m not sure what needs measuring. RDNA2 took everyone by surprise.

Nvidia have felt the pressure to release updated cards and announce a refresh.
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Exactly.

If AMD had the ability to produce more RDNA2 GPUs, Nvidia's market share wouldn't look half as good.

Ampere has better raytracing and upscaling, but far worse perf/watt and for the first time in ages has higher board costs as it doesn't have Infinity Cache and needs wider and faster memory (although in true Nvidia fashion Ampere skimps on VRAM to reduce BoM and increase obsolescence).
 
Freddie1980 said:
I've seen one place selling the 5950X for £530 which only £30 more then what OCUK are selling the 5900X at. I wonder how he's able to sell it so cheap? Smuggled in bulk from China? VAT scam?
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Maybe just not making a vast markup to con 'loyal' aka daftly blinkered customers.
 
Joxeon said:
AMDs success is really down to TSMC. Their Gpus while good only match Nvidia on a far worse Samsung node and they also have a node advantage against Intel.

If China invades Taiwan then what happens to AMD?
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If China invades Taiwan we'll be deep in the crap thanks to our daft new defense pact to try and restrain China. AMD's fate will probably be considered a side issue
although maybe they can go back to GloFo and 22nm or is it 32nm or 40nm for the win? ;)
 
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