Those ddr5 capable boards possibly with pcie5 and the memory itself aren't going to be cheap and they'll look like terrible value within 12-24 months after release I'd guess. The upcoming ryzen and some fast ddr4 will give a fair bit of headroom over current consoles. Not sure the move to early adoption on Intel will be worth it and I favour neither company.
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Zen 3D V-Cache Ryzen CPUs May be Available in December 2021
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Outside of chunky APU’s, work stations or situations that require a boatload of memory across a limited number of slots. I don’t see much need for DDR5 desktops yet.
I honestly think Threadripper is getting squeezed between the WFH and EPYC demand. Probably a little from the RTX Ampere CPU requirement too.
You are probably right but I still find it frustrating. At least I can't buy anything until October even if I wanted to and by that time it seems daft not to wait for the next AMD CPU event to see if they do update it then. December / January would be fine for me.
November apparently.
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/8061...x-64-cores-on-zen-3-coming-in-2021/index.html
15% on average in games according to AMD.
Thanks for the link. That is interesting and pretty good timing for me.
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If Zen 3D is for Epyc Milan X CPU's what type of applications will likely see a performance uplift?
7zip!
And then possibly only if set to solid archive with a dictionary which fits in there cache.
I'm sure there are others, but that was the first things that sprung to mind.
If you live in bizarro world, maybe.
So Alder Lake paper launches around October and best-case benchmarks has it besting Zen 3 by about 10%. Couple months later AMD refine their existing Zen 3 with a 15% (from what's been shown so far) uplift. AMD are then set to release Zen 4 before Raptor Lake.
If retaining performance leadership with refining an existing arch is "too little" then I dread to think what AMD will do when they put a bit of effort in. And "too late"? Releasing actual products before their competitor (who still has a performance deficit) hits volume is hardly "too late".
Are you done trolling now? Go sit in the corner with 4K8K, the adults would like to have a conversation.
Anything that utilises a boat load of cache. Gamers Nexus were reservedly (and uncharacteristically) giddy at the performance uplift code compiling could see.
I don't think Milan X is just 3D stacked cache though.
It looks like it but lets wait for reviews before jumping the gun again
I imagine you saying that like a pirate.
How did you manage to get off my ignore list anyway.
Ponte Vecchio might be 10% faster than Zen3 with half the cores.
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Ponte Vecchio, that is one you want to big up. Looks amazballz.
Except that it's not. The multithread is 10% faster than Zen 3 with the same number of cores. Which immediately throws the accuracy of Intel's marketing slides into question.
I was about to say, the 12900K is a 16 core CPU.
Only 24 threads though vs 32 and 8 of those are from small cores so still a decent result if the benchmarks are accurate.
What you also have to remember is while the 12900K will still have a thread deficit against the 5950X the CPUs that most people actually buy like the 5600X and 5800X will have less threads than their Intel counterparts which should have 16 for the 12600k and 20 for the 12700K so the performance gap should be much wider in Intels favour.
What you also have to remember is while the 12900K will still have a thread deficit against the 5950X the CPUs that most people actually buy like the 5600X and 5800X will have less threads than their Intel counterparts which should have 16 for the 12600k and 20 for the 12700K so the performance gap should be much wider in Intels favour.
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