The official Dell Ultrasharp 2408WFP Thread

Big.Wayne said:
I believe Baddass still owns a 2405FPW? That speaks volumes. . .
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i certainly do :) And i agree, you really need to calibrate the 2408WFP to get decent results from it....without, it's far too bright, has saturated colours and looks cartoony! once calibrated though, it's very good :)

Mizzlebob said:
How do these colour calibration tools work? I've seena few monitors which can compete with the Dell 2408 once calibrated.

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Which tool is better, would you say? The Sypder 3(Pro/Elite) or the LaCie BlueEye?
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they help you adjust the monitor OSD settings to a good level, and then carry out a software level adjustment to adjust your graphics card LUT and then create an ICC profile. Have a look at the reviews of leading colorimeters here which should help: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews.htm ;)

Sallermas, sorry for double posting, but in case my question drops to the bottom of the forum abyss, which of the calibration tools would you recommend? I mean, if you get a Spyder 3 Pro, would the calibration be any less accurate that the Elite, or does the Elite just have extra bells and whistles that you might not use? Also, the LaCie BlueEye is what's used for the reviews on TFT central. I've never really used any of these magic boxes before, and would appreciate any info anyone had
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The Spyder3 packages feature the same hardware device, just different software packages. calibration results should be the same really in terms of accuracy, but the features, options and reporting functions will vary. The LaCie Blue Eye package is a different hardware tool, and features all the top end reportuing graphs you see in the reviews there (dE, gamut etc). If you want a cheaper version, the X-rite i1 display 2 is the same hardware, but different software. it still gives excellent results, but you wont get the reporting features that LaCie's package offers. depends if you really need those though

The problem you are seeing is the "wide-gamut" snake oil. The reason your 2405 looked better is that it had the standard 72% NTSC gamut. The Dell 2408 has way overcooked colours out-of-the-box as it can physically display a wider-range of reds and greens. This means that bar calibrating in the factory (and adding £££ to the cost, ignoring the fact that you should recalibrate often) you're stuck with getting a colorimeter to sort out the mess you've been landed in.

This is why I don't believe that high-gamut monitors have a place in the mid-range line-ups, it's just being forced on us because it's a bigger number in the spec box when comparing against another monitor.
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I agree. Once calibrated they can be good, but without, they can add problems to most normal users.

I do need this monitor for web/graphic design, as well as gaming obv :P. That's why I wondered if calibration would help, because it really seems to in the TFT Central reviews. However, I've had this nagging in the back of my head if going to all this effort for web-based design is worth it, because even though I may have a nigh accurate display after all this, 99.99% of people out there don't. So it may just all have gone to waste.
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i'd disagree with that reallly. while there are a fair few reports of issues with the 2408WFP, it is only effecting a small number really in the larger picture.....there are bound to be many many more perfectly happy customers. there's even fewer reports than there was with the 2407WFP-HC black ghosting issue really.
 
Just noticed this on the Dell community forum :

http://www.dellcommunity.com/suppor...hread.id=90203&view=by_date_ascending&page=10

While the currently shipping Dell 2408WFP monitor meets both Dell and industry standard specifications, we have been closely listening to your feedback on the Dell Community Forum. Based on your comments, Dell is working to incorporate a number of improvements into the 2408WFP as a firmware update for new monitors scheduled to ship in mid-July. This firmware update features greater control over sharpness settings, improved power save recovery, and less input lag. Current 2408WFP owners whose specific usage scenario may benefit from the firmware update should contact Dell Technical Support after Mid July to receive the firmware update. If you have any questions please feel free to post them here or contact Dell Technical Support.
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I wonder how the input lag will be addressed just by firmware alone.

I had hoped to get a 24" monoitor before mid-July, but I guess if all the problems are addressed in this monitor by then, I might hang on for it. My main reason for getting this monitor is the design - nice stand, in-built USB hub and card readers, and being able to rotate the screen, as well as having good wide-angle. I'm not really interested in the extra colour gamut as I'm colourblind!
 
Anybody seen any news on the update? I thought it was around the 20thish?

Can I assume that if I was to take advantage of the prices in the bank holiday special, I'd (well, certainly) get an A00 from OcUK, but unable to get the new revision, or upgrade it myself?
 
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New firmware would come out in about month and a half, so I'm wondering if OCUK will haul all their stock of the monitor to Dell for firmware update and then get it back...:)
 
Notice TFT Central say 2408WFP REV A01 is due July now ( originally end of May) we've receievd the 3008WFP REV A01's in the office but still getting REV A00 2408WFP's I wonder if TFT Central are correct about this
 
Sallermas said:
Notice TFT Central say 2408WFP REV A01 is due July now ( originally end of May) we've receievd the 3008WFP REV A01's in the office but still getting REV A00 2408WFP's I wonder if TFT Central are correct about this
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thats come direct from Dell liason from their community forums, so is about as accurate as we can hope for at the moment.
 
Good to know that A01s are on the way - the 3008's are EOL now aren't they - not making the panels anymore or something ?

Am really going to hope this fixes the input lag - I'm not too bothered about the colour correctness - can mess about with that post purchase but just want to have something that would be good for gaming as well as films etc :)
 
I wonder if there's anywhere local where I can find one to have a go with, just to see how it is. I somehow doubt that my local PC World or Dixons would stock it...:(
 
Considering that we have now entered a month when Dell is supposedly going to release this new firmware, I am curious to find out when OcUK is planning to send all their existing stock of the monitor to be redone with new firmware?
 
Just got Me DELL 2408FPW Friday just gone, going to run 2 games
Race Driver Grid & Gears of War (fps) & post back how it is.


Contents..
1xDVI cable
1xVGA cable
1x DisPLAY Port Cable - (New Feature)
usb Hub Cable -from monitor to pc usb
cd Driver with quick start guide ,also download the monitor Driver from (Microsoft Windows UPDATE) in Custon Part.
Qick Start Guide ,Paper
Monitor Stand , I wall mounted Mine

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Dell 2408FPW(b)
monitor Firmware Ver is A00

says on back
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Colours Are Great Whites are whites no funny Pinky.
 
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I don't know whether OcUK would necessarily state 'A01' in the product spec but we can only hope they may choose to do so once they know they are getting them in.

Be interesting to hear your view Darren_uk as I've been waiting so long to get a new monitor and the 2408 is still my top choice - hopefully a solid one providing A01 can make the necessary improvements.
 
A01 may peek my interest in actually buying one which I wanted to do a million times and a million years ago ;)

Either that or the Hazro Revised fixed 24" :)
 
CaptainRAVE said:
Will it be really obvious when the A01s are in stock. Will they be in stock by mid august?
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I don't think it will be obvious, as the last comment from the Dell Liaison in USA said the following :

DELL-Jimmy_P said:
Due to a Dell internal process change many of the 2408's that will ship new with the revised firmware will have a different part number and not a different revision number. The only way you will be able to tell if it's the revised firmware is to check the sharpness setting, if the setting is in multiples of 10 then it is the revised firmware if it's in multiples of 25 then it's not. The part number has nothing to do with the revision but someone decided since we are changing the part number anyway the firmware will be A00 on that part number.
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http://www.dellcommunity.com/suppor...hread.id=90203&view=by_date_ascending&page=27

I'm now considering getting a cheaper TN panel. I can't see the point of paying such a lot of money on a monitor with so many flaws.
 
Still it worrys me dell support was this bad.

If a large number as in the 100s or 1000s complain I know dell look at it in numbers and money they just didnt bother to support there customers which is wrong, well not till 6 months later.

Look at Hazros support, its completly different 2-3 guys complained about the issue in Vista and what did they do immediatly? They said we will swop it for a fixed panel soon and there about to delivery on that statement soon.

For that reason alone Hazro should be considered but its a great shame considering the 2408 has so much features and larger gamut support, which is the only reasons im still hoping on the dell A01 revised model :)
 
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