2008 Chinese GP - Race 17/18

simulatorman said:
My little bit of fiction:

Raikkonen will beat Hamilton to the first corner, Massa will let Alonso into third place. Alonso will drive into the back of Hamilton. If Hamilton gets back into the race, Weber will do for him. Massa will pass Raikkonen after the first pit stop and go on to win the race. Raikkonen will be second and Kubica will finish third. ;)
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You forgot


DC will come through and wipeout 90% of the field allowing for a force India 1-2 :D
 
Last time a driver took another driver out (Senna / Prost) it was rumoured that drivers are now told anything like that and the driver is banned from competition in the next season.

Is that enought of a deterent?

If Alonso planned on doing anything like that he wouldnt tell the media he was "going to help massa" in advance would he.
 
Good point spoonz. I'd imagine Alonso will just let Massa through whenever he will be in front (after pitstops etc) and be a pain in the neck with Hamilton behind him.
 
Flibster said:
Schumacher / Villeneuve?
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He didn't quite take Villeneuve out though, did he? He botched it :)

Funny how these things work out, isn't it? Senna takes Prost out and wins the title. Schumacher tries and fails to take Villeneuve out, and is stripped of second place in the championship.
 
Prost also took Senna out the year before though when they were both at Mclaren. TBH these things happen in racing, i dont condone their actions but as has been said quite a bit, the FIA are intervening far too much and the drivers now are gonna be put off trying to overtake each other, as if they run wide/cut the corner they will more than likely get a penalty.

I enjoyed F1 so much more in the 90s, and although i loved the fact that Schumacher won the championship 5 times in the 00's, the racing was much more raw before then.
 
spoonz said:
Last time a driver took another driver out (Senna / Prost) it was rumoured that drivers are now told anything like that and the driver is banned from competition in the next season.
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Aren't you forgetting Mr Schumacher knocking Damon Hill out and then trying the same trick on Villeneuve the next year ?

Edit - too slow !
 
spoonz said:
Last time a driver took another driver out (Senna / Prost) it was rumoured that drivers are now told anything like that and the driver is banned from competition in the next season.

Is that enought of a deterent?

If Alonso planned on doing anything like that he wouldnt tell the media he was "going to help massa" in advance would he.
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Sch taking out Hill was more recent :D (and nothing happened until 97' when Sch took out Villeneave, and that probably only happened because of the 94 incident)

edit - laughs at myself for not reading the rest of the thread before posting

Here is for a CLEAN race - highly unlikely but would be good to see
 
CS||nuTs said:
You forgot


DC will come through and wipeout 90% of the field allowing for a force India 1-2 :D
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I just choked :D

P.S. Regards the Hamilton penalty - what did they expect him to do? Leave the car there and ruin his qualifying?!?
P.P.S Alonso just keeps on showing how mad McLaren were to drop him - has any driver outshone his team mate by so much and so often?!? Its a travesty that theres a chance he wont get back in the top 2 teams where hed be an automatic favourite for the WDC. Vettel and Bourdais perhaps...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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sunama said:
I thought that Senna took Prost out in 1989, Japan.
Then Prost repaid the favour and took Senna out in 1990, Japan.

Is that not the case?
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As Lopéz says, Suzuka '89 was when Prost and Senna crashed into each other at the chicane. Senna was trying to get by, Prost turned in on him. Senna got going again but was DQ'd. Prost took the title.

Senna was, to put it mildly, a bit vexed by this and accused Jean-Marie Balestre (then FIA president) of favouring Prost. He very nearly didn't compete in 1990 over the ruckus. This then came to a head at the end of the 1990 season. Senna was on pole in Japan, but pole position was on the dirty side of the track. Prost was in second place, on the prime side. Senna wanted pole moved to the other side, this was denied him. Aggrieved, Senna declared that if Prost lead into the first corner then there would be fireworks.

Sure enough, Prost blasted off the line (being on a clean track) and was leading into Turn 1. Senna barely even touched the brakes, and slammed into Prost sending them both off into the gravel trap and sending Murray Walker up a few octaves....


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ps3ud0 said:
P.S. Regards the Hamilton penalty - what did they expect him to do? Leave the car there and ruin his qualifying?!?
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Huh? He hasn't been penalised yet. And no, if he gets anything it'll be the same fine that Trulli at a previous round. Unless the stewards take leave of their senses again and decide to do something desperately stupid.
 
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JRS said:
Huh? He hasn't been penalised yet. And no, if he gets anything it'll be the same fine that Trulli at a previous round. Unless the stewards take leave of their senses again and decide to do something desperately stupid.
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They would have to get sense to take leave of them surely!
 
Should tell Nicole hes racing this weekend - shame on her...

JRS said:
Huh? He hasn't been penalised yet. And no, if he gets anything it'll be the same fine that Trulli at a previous round. Unless the stewards take leave of their senses again and decide to do something desperately stupid.
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Sorry I know its not a penalty (yet) - I was just wondering what they expected him to do when it happened - just get out of the car and declare himself out of qualifying because he wasnt allowed to use reverse?

Totally agreed with your view earlier on that it wasnt him testing the pit lane entry - just him losing concentration (yet again unfortunately).

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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NathanE said:
Did anyone see the bags under LH's eyes in the press conference?
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It's not surprising that he looks a bit put-upon right now. His championship lead has taken a dive, he's got most of the grid firmly against him and he's facing two races which did not go very well last year.

ps3ud0 said:
Sorry I know its not a penalty (yet) - I was just wondering what they expected him to do when it happened - just get out of the car and declare himself out of qualifying because he wasnt allowed to use reverse?
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It was quite a while before qually when it happened (before the halfway mark in Saturday practice in fact) - they'd have had plenty enough time to get his car back out of that hole and into the garage to get it fully prepared for Q1.
 
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