**Summer Transfer Thread: News, Rumours and Speculation**

We can't afford to buy anyone anyway :p

I like Gibson, he's not setting the world a light, but he's okay.

Mach and Welbeck are too young, really too young and have looked really out of their depth. Welback especially.

gibson kind of reminds me of darren fletcher. Doesn't set the world alight but could become a more then useful squad player.

the strikers definetly have the raw potential be interesting to see how they turn out, although i fear macheda will want to move back to italy if he becomes good.
 
Meh, we'll see I suppose, he's only 21. How many first choice strikers are there at top clubs who are 21? Benzema? Aguero? Short list ..

Edit - Forgot Pato!

In years gone by we've had Rooney, Raul, Anelka, Kluivert, Del Piero, Ronaldo, Fowler, Owen etc. At the age of 21 they were established players at top clubs like MU, Arsenal/Real Madrid, Ajax/AC Milan, Juventus, Barcelona/Inter, Liverpool etc. In fact before turning 22 they'd all won trophies with their clubs. Bendtner isn't in the same class IMO.
 
In years gone by we've had Rooney, Raul, Anelka, Kluivert, Del Piero, Ronaldo, Fowler, Owen etc. At the age of 21 they were established players at top clubs like MU, Arsenal/Real Madrid, Ajax/AC Milan, Juventus, Barcelona/Inter, Liverpool etc. In fact before turning 22 they'd all won trophies with their clubs. Bendtner isn't in the same class IMO.

its worth pointing out that almost every last one of those strikers you mentioned got worse as they got older and injuries, lack of effort, money and whatever else caught up with them.

This utter myth that you get better as you get older is beyond a joke. You can also include Eto'o, Messi, Robinho, kaka, RVN was banging them in just not here, RVP was banging them in 3/4 years ago as he is now, just injury free(ish) now, and most of the worlds best strikers, most of them were as good when they were younger.

Often the difference in older players "seeming" better, is often down to foreign players very often playing in their own countries leagues for years before getting moves around, for instance RVP was great at 18, but we didn't see him till later, same can be said for many of the worlds top strikers, but you see RVN suddenly all the time when he's what, mid to late 20's and you assume thats when he got good because thats when you started watching him.

AS for not putting Bendtner in the same class, I agree, thats fair, i've yet to think he'll be "that" good, but again the names you've listed are probably the top strikers in the world, not being in the top 30 strikers in the world doesn't make you terrible, nor do many of the best clubs in the world have more than 1 or 2 of the best strikers, almost all have less good strikers for rotation and injury cover. Bendtner with few appearances, no form, no help has shown more than enough potential to be more than good enough to be a 3rd choice striker for us, if he grows into a 1st/2nd choice is yet to be seen, doesn't mean he's crap though.
 
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There's an easy way to sum Adebayor up, he used to try very, very hard so Arsenal fans over-looked the flaws in his game, now he doesn't try at all so the flaws are even more apparent and he does nothing to endear himself to the fans, so people don't like him anymore. He was never good, he just tried once upon a time.

I watched Melo pretty closely in all the games and while he looks pretty good, strangely enough I think Gilberto was better in nearly all the games. If Arsene pays £15m for Melo he's been had.

He believes his own hype, last year he was going to Barca for £25 million, he needs to acutally do something before he can be classed that good.

also


Shepherd in £60m Newcastle offer


Former Newcastle chairman Freddy Shepherd is heading a consortium that is set to launch a £60m takeover bid for the Magpies, BBC Sport understands.

Alan Shearer has been lined up to carry on as manager at the club, who were relegated to the Championship in May.

Owner Mike Ashley was asking for £100m but BBC Sport understands Shepherd's offer is likely to be accepted.

Shepherd sold his Newcastle shares to current owner Mike Ashley two years ago as part of a £134m deal for the club.
 
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Shepherd buying back Newcaslte at a profit :eek:

I honestly didn't see that coming. However, maybe Shepherd will be able to "sort" Newcaslte out, the more I read about contract deals and wages, it's constantly shocking me that a club can be ran that badly, for that long.

It begs the question. How did Ashley make so much money.
 
Shepherd buying back Newcaslte at a profit :eek:

I honestly didn't see that coming. However, maybe Shepherd will be able to "sort" Newcaslte out, the more I read about contract deals and wages, it's constantly shocking me that a club can be ran that badly, for that long.

We talking about Shepherd or Ashley here? :p
 
Mixture of both :p
Ashley isn't the one person responsible, He has failed to make changes that needed to be made.

I seriously have no idea how Ashley became so rich, proves that anyone can do it I suppose :p
 
BBC said:
Samuel Eto'o wants a £12.5m signing-on fee to join Manchester City. The Barcelona striker has already been offered wages of £250,000 a week by the Eastlands club.
Full story: The Sun

Or the Cameroon striker is looking for a £15m golden handshake from Barcelona otherwise the move to City is off.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Chelsea are poised to complete a hat-trick of signings by landing CSKA Moscow forward Yuri Zhirkov, Manchester City forward Daniel Sturridge and Middlesbrough goalkeeper Ross Turnbull.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Arsenal have been stunned by Andrey Arshavin's revelation that he would be "really happy" to play for Barcelona if he gets the chance.
Full story: The Sun

Liverpool midfielder Xabi Alonso will holds talks with boss Rafael Benitez this week over a possible move to Real Madrid.
Full story: The Sun

Meanwhile, Reds defender Alvaro Arbeloa is set to seal a switch to Real for about £5m. (The Independent)

Aston Villa are ready to pay £5m for Espanyol forward Luis Garcia, who is also wanted by Porto.
Full story: The Sun

Villa are also set to bid £5m for Middlesbrough midfielder Tuncay.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Tottenham have joined the chase for Gronigen's Sweden international striker Marcus Berg, but they may need to pay £10m to beat Everton his signature.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Spurs have told Villarreall they want cash plus Sebastien Eguren and Marcos Senna in exchange for striker Roman Pavlyuchenko. (The Times)

West Ham are trying to hijack Hull's £3.4m move for Nancy striker Marc-Antoine Fortune.
Full story: Daily Mirror

Fulham have offered £2.2m for Almeria striker Kalu Uche. (The Sun)

Birmingham want to sign Tottenham defender Gareth Bale on a season-log loan deal. (Daily Star)

Wolves are set to sign Reading striker Kevin Doyle for a club record fee of £6.5m.
Full story: The Sun

Huddersfield will pay £1m to sign Bristol Rovers striker Rickie Lambert. (The Sun)

Ipswich boss Roy Keane is close to completing a £1m deal for QPR full-back Damien Delaney. Kane also wants to make a double raid on Sunderland to sign defender Nyron Nosworthy and winger Carlos Edwards. (Daily Star)

Burnley are fighting it out with Cardiff in race to sign £2.5m-rated Doncaster defender Mat Mills. (Daily Star)


OTHER GOSSIP
Carlos Tevez has accused Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson of blowing the chance to win the Champions League final by dropping him. The Argentine striker, whose United contract expires today, said: "He made a mistake to leave me on the bench."
Full story: Daily Mirror

Former Aston Villa boss David O'Leary says his successor Martin O'Neill has not helped the club progress.
Full story: Daily Mirror


AND FINALLY
Usually there is little to be pleased about when you miss your flight, but Fabio Capello's failure to catch a plane from South Africa meant he was spared being in attendance for England Under-21s humiliating 4-0 defeat by German in the European Championship final in Sweden on Tuesday. (Daily Mirror)
 
Former Aston Villa boss David O'Leary says his successor Martin O'Neill has not helped the club progress?

By progress does he mean rape them for every penny before legging it? O'Leary would've got them relegated had he been given the chance.
 
Will Carlos Tevez PLEASE SHUT THE **** UP once and for all :mad:

Tevez said:
"You cannot argue with Alex Ferguson," said Tevez. "He is like the president of England. It is impossible, you always lose.

"But he made a mistake to leave me on the bench. That was the only final the team had lost since I had been at Manchester United."

He might be right though and some fans won't listen your opinions either Carlos;)
 
I think he means it was the only final they lost since he's been there, not the only cup they didn't win:)

I understood that - but he also seems to imply that was the only important match we didnt win in two years (as we all know some cups are 2nd rate compared to others)

Talks in the paper of crunch talks between Rafa and Alonso. I so hope we do not sell him.

I think Liverpool lost Alonso last summer in the Barry fiasco, so I wouldnt be surprised if he wanted to leave (esp for the New Galatico's)

edit - but I cant see Masch leaving and therefore I very much doubt Toure will leave Barca
 
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I think Liverpool lost Alonso last summer in the Barry fiasco, so I wouldnt be surprised if he wanted to leave (esp for the New Galatico's)

edit - but I cant see Masch leaving and therefore I very much doubt Toure will leave Barca

That I agree with, the way it was reported in the press was dispicable.

I still cannot believe we wanted Barry over Alonso.
 
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