*** The 2010 Gym Rats Thread ***

I've never felt like throwing up or passing out. I have felt 'weird' after a lot of sets of deadlifts though. I dont sweat a great deal, which I believe is down to some decent cardio conditioning, but my heart does race after each set. I used to have a real bug about not feeling knackered after my lifting but I got over it in the end. Its a redherring. I know I'm lifting hard if my form starts to falter and my performance begins to drop on each set, I know I'm pushing myself. I dont get any DOMS either. I got over it. Infact I'm glad I dont because my 2 weeks experience of doing 10x10 squats was terrible. :) So long as you're making new personal bests I dont think anything else matters.
 
anyone help me pick a belt for adding weights on dips, pullups etc? dunno what i should be lookin for really. i thought myprotein used to do one but seems to have gone

*edit looks like amazon do some, they really do sell everythin these days!!*
 
willems said:
anyone help me pick a belt for adding weights on dips, pullups etc? dunno what i should be lookin for really. i thought myprotein used to do one but seems to have gone

*edit looks like amazon do some, they really do sell everythin these days!!*
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There are other options available but SK Sports do a fairly decent belt, it's comfortable and I've seen Freefaller using it for dips with 40kg+ on it without issue - if you're at the level of needing stronger than that you may have to research further.

//edit, actually that's a slightly different belt but by the same manufacturer. This is the right one.
 
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semi-pro waster said:
There are other options available but SK Sports do a fairly decent belt, it's comfortable and I've seen Freefaller using it for dips with 40kg+ on it without issue - if you're at the level of needing stronger than that you may have to research further.

//edit, actually that's a slightly different belt but by the same manufacturer. This is the right one.
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looks a lot like this one on amazon

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Weight-Training-Dipping-Belt-chain/dp/B0025U2WPO/ref=pd_cp_sg_0
 
140kg squats ATG today pretty comfortable too :cool:

Current AGVT working weights

Bench 120kg
Back Squat (ATG) 140kg (should be higher really - I'll adjust accordingly)
DL 170kg
SLDL 110kg (should be more)
Front squat 100kg
Pull ups/Chins BW+10kg (doesn't sound like a lot, but with 4s negs I can assure you, it ain't easy! :D, but again a bit more weight should be sensible)
T-Bar 120kg

Those are the main big movements at the moment, all quite "easy". When I say easy, I'm ready to send my insides bursting across the gym floor - but I'm able to complete the reps/sets fully, so quite happy with the progress. :)
 
FF, can you just tell me what you think of my current base (where I should be working most, etc.)?

Please bear in mind, this is my first real foray into heavy lifting.

Weight = 80kg (just shy of 12.5 stone)
Height = 6.1" ish.
Running = 4.0 km on treadmills in 20mins on a good day, 23-25mins on a bad.
Benching = 60kg @ 5x5 via Smith
Back squatting = 60kg @ 5x5, doing the first couple of sets at 40kg.
Deadlifting = 40kg @ 5x5
Leg extension = 40kg through to 60kg @ 5x5
Bicep curls = 20kg per arm @ 5x5
Tricep cable pull-downs (don't know the name) = 4-second negatives, 40-50kg @ 5x5
Chest press (machine) = 35 through to 50kg @ 5x5, repeating last twice.


I could probably do more across the board, but I'm just very worried about injuring myself as I never have a spotter and I'm taking time with what I 'think' should be good form.
 
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Anyone comment on Maximuscle Cyclone supplement?

I've bought a tub (very expensive and only 1.2kg), and currently taking 1.5 scoops (60g) 1 hour before my training session, 1 more right after the session, then 1 more an hour before I sleep. I think I'm noticing better results during my sessions (strength) and after them (growth).
 
Nix said:
FF, can you just tell me what you think of my current base (where I should be working most, etc.)?

Please bear in mind, this is my first real foray into heavy lifting.

Weight = 75kg (just shy of 12.5 stone)
Height = 6.1" ish.
Running = 4.0 km on treadmills in 20mins on a good day, 23-25mins on a bad.
Benching = 60kg @ 5x5 via Smith
Back squatting = 60kg @ 5x5, doing the first couple of sets at 40kg.
Deadlifting = 40kg @ 5x5
Leg extension = 40kg through to 60kg @ 5x5
Bicep curls = 20kg per arm @ 5x5
Tricep cable pull-downs (don't know the name) = 4-second negatives, 40-50kg @ 5x5
Chest press (machine) = 35 through to 50kg @ 5x5, repeating last twice.


I could probably do more across the board, but I'm just very worried about injuring myself as I never have a spotter and I'm taking time with what I 'think' should be good form.
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It's a good fear to have, too many people try to bite off more than they can chew. What I would say is don't let it stop you from pushing yourself occasionally with a spotter keeping good form. :)

First impressions are that your legs are letting you down and trailing behind the rest of your lifts. If you can bench 60kg, I'd expect you to be closer to 90kg squats. :) Leg extensions you should be blasting out 3 figures easily.

I know you may not have access to a regular BB for bench, but I'd try and get into free weight lifting and ditch the smith as soon as you can, certainly when starting out.

The targets I'd be aiming for is at least BW deadlifts and squats.

Clearly it depends what you're after - you're doing a 5x5 routine which is a great way of developing strength, and modest hypertrophy.

By the last set/rep how comfortably are you achieving it? You should just be on the cusp of failing, but not quite. If you feel you can do a couple of extra reps, or another set, then it's probably not heavy enough. :)
 
gee3000 said:
Anyone comment on Maximuscle Cyclone supplement?

I've bought a tub (very expensive and only 1.2kg), and currently taking 1.5 scoops (60g) 1 hour before my training session, 1 more right after the session, then 1 more an hour before I sleep. I think I'm noticing better results during my sessions (strength) and after them (growth).
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You won't extra strength or growth from any supplement, however they can help you to supply more nutrients to muscles/muscle fibres during lifting and/or help improve your energy output during a workout - hence why you probably feel you have more strength. The growth is probably an increased pump or fullness from the creatine and water that has been drawn to your tissue. How did you measure the growth? How did you measure the strength? A lot of it will be pyschological - but if it helps you lift better, it's your money and your training! :)
 
gee3000 said:
Anyone comment on Maximuscle Cyclone supplement?

I've bought a tub (very expensive and only 1.2kg), and currently taking 1.5 scoops (60g) 1 hour before my training session, 1 more right after the session, then 1 more an hour before I sleep. I think I'm noticing better results during my sessions (strength) and after them (growth).
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Theres a supplement thread around here with LOADS of info in it. In a nutshell, quit being ripped off :p have a look at PHD products.
 
Back session today. Weighted pullups, followed by one arm bent over rows, a few sets of barbell curls then another lot of pullups, not weighted. Though by that point doing a set of ten pullups was very, very hard!
 
Chris1712 said:
Can someone tell me why it is that common misconceptions about resistance training are so, well common!?

Chatting to mates down the local on Friday night, conversation moves to gym activities and a couple chip in with how they want to get some 20kg dumbells for at home so they can get toned. I try to explain why there really is not such thing as tone, you've got fat and muscle, you need more muscle or less fat end of. Cue 10 minutes or arguing that light weight for high reps = tone.
Same thing occurs whenever I say I'm using weight training (and HIIT) to lose weight, don't I know I should just do 20 minutes of LISS? Any weight training I will get huge and muscley in 3 months DUH!!

Its so frustrating to hear it, its crazy that this stuff has become so ingrained in peoples brains but is also so untrue. And I can't even win the argument because they ask where I learnt such things, ofcourse I have to reply with 'The Internet' so they just rant that its full of WoW nerds and I'm full of ****.


In other news, decent enough session in the gymnasium. Down to 119kg now (started at 128 early Dec) and bench press is up to 65kg, boom boom POW!.
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I tend not to talk about training at all, but people inevitably ask what gym I go to etc so it can't be avoided to some extent. A few weeks ago a chap at college asked me if I was on steroids, before telling me that it's a good job I don't because once they "stick it in your ass you are gay for life". I laughed but he was deadly serious :confused:
I've found talking about training to someone that 'goes to the gym' or similar also provides comedy quotes...
 
gee3000 said:
Anyone comment on Maximuscle Cyclone supplement?

I've bought a tub (very expensive and only 1.2kg), and currently taking 1.5 scoops (60g) 1 hour before my training session, 1 more right after the session, then 1 more an hour before I sleep. I think I'm noticing better results during my sessions (strength) and after them (growth).
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I used it, and it does what it says on the tub, but i don't use it anymore, i moved to myprotein products as it's way cheaper for a stack of supplements.
 
Freefaller said:
First impressions are that your legs are letting you down and trailing behind the rest of your lifts. If you can bench 60kg, I'd expect you to be closer to 90kg squats. :) Leg extensions you should be blasting out 3 figures easily.
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Interesting. I'm sat at 130lbs 3x8 bench (machine) but only 110lbs 3x12 extension? I'm doing more reps on legs as I've so far found it beneficial for weight loss, I figure they're big muscles they use lots of juice :p.
Anyway, leg extensions.... I don't feel a lot of hamstring activation If I'm honest, and quite often get calf cramp. Could it be my positioning? Guess I'll experiment a bit tonight. Leg Press is 300lbs 3x12. Tips?
 
Freefaller said:
First impressions are that your legs are letting you down and trailing behind the rest of your lifts. If you can bench 60kg, I'd expect you to be closer to 90kg squats. :) Leg extensions you should be blasting out 3 figures easily.
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Hmm interesting ive always found extensions quite hard.
Im currently benching 150kg (belt and inzer wrist wraps), Squatting 220kg (Belt and inzer knee wraps) and Deadlifting 260kg (belt and Ironworks 3's as my tight hamstrings make it easier for me to DL in IW's) and i only go up to around 160kg on leg extensions for 5 reps, when i do them which isnt often i admit.

60kg bench to 90kg squat sounds about right to me, but then triple figure extensions sounds massive :)

Different machines etc i guess, my gym uses Hammer strength plated gear, probably different using machines.

...oh and hi btw.. new member but it sounds like we have a bit in common training approach wise.. :)
 
Chris1712 said:
Interesting. I'm sat at 130lbs 3x8 bench (machine) but only 110lbs 3x12 extension? I'm doing more reps on legs as I've so far found it beneficial for weight loss, I figure they're big muscles they use lots of juice :p.
Anyway, leg extensions.... I don't feel a lot of hamstring activation If I'm honest, and quite often get calf cramp. Could it be my positioning? Guess I'll experiment a bit tonight. Leg Press is 300lbs 3x12. Tips?
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Put more weights on :p Seriously though the main problem is probably you are intimidated by soo many plates on, I know when I sit down under 20 20k plates it looks a little off putting. Next time warm up fully then just put another 2 plates on and force yourself to do it :)

FocusST57 said:
Hmm interesting ive always found extensions quite hard.
Im currently benching 150kg (belt and inzer wrist wraps), Squatting 220kg (Belt and inzer knee wraps) and Deadlifting 260kg (belt and Ironworks 3's as my tight hamstrings make it easier for me to DL in IW's) and i only go up to around 160kg on leg extensions for 5 reps, when i do them which isnt often i admit.

60kg bench to 90kg squat sounds about right to me, but then triple figure extensions sounds massive :)

Different machines etc i guess, my gym uses Hammer strength plated gear, probably different using machines.

...oh and hi btw.. new member but it sounds like we have a bit in common training approach wise.. :)
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Hi mate, very impressive numbers. Post up your stats and head over to the pics thread if you feel like it. You are right about the machines to, triple figures on some machines is VERY hard.
 
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