Support isn't entirely there for one as it is. Sacrificing popular voting opinion and giving the country exactly what they didn't ask for is likely to see further erosion of that support. Referenda also have a tendancy to lead to people using it as a protest vote against the desires of the government...
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Support isn't entirely there for one as it is. Sacrificing popular voting opinion and giving the country exactly what they didn't ask for is likely to see further erosion of that support. Referenda also have a tendancy to lead to people using it as a protest vote against the desires of the government...
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AHHHH. Irrelevent. They did NOT vote for LIB AND LAB. FFS.
Lib Dems = Whores.
They have been whinging about PR for 100 years. You would think they could set aside this one mantra for about, say, four years in order to set this country on the right track. How blind. How selfish.
It will be good in the long run. I can't see a PR bill being passed in the short or medium term (too much else for the next government to do) and both Labour and the Whores will go down the pan at the next election.
They have been whinging about PR for 100 years. You would think they could set aside this one mantra for about, say, four years in order to set this country on the right track. How blind. How selfish.
It will be good in the long run. I can't see a PR bill being passed in the short or medium term (too much else for the next government to do) and both Labour and the Whores will go down the pan at the next election.
Why blame the cuts rather than the spending that means they are necessary?
I wish Nick Robinson would stop speaking about sex and bums. He's a creepy man!
I disagree, I think that they'll scrape it through - It won't be a resounding defeat.
Nonetheless, I don't actually think they'll get a referendum on PR - It'll be STV I reckon.
I disagree, I think that they'll scrape it through - It won't be a resounding defeat.
Nonetheless, I don't actually think they'll get a referendum on PR - It'll be STV I reckon.
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And more to the point, combining the Lib and con results gives a greater majority. Labour really need to stop treating the lib dems as a wing of their own party, and Clegg needs to stand up to the bullying authoritarian gits.
That Conservative minority government will not do the parties long term future any favour.
They'll cut and save the country, the city will revive itself and things will start to look a bit better.
However, they'll also be blamed for everything, including what Labour has done over the last thirteen years and they wont be voted back in for ages.
They'll cut and save the country, the city will revive itself and things will start to look a bit better.
However, they'll also be blamed for everything, including what Labour has done over the last thirteen years and they wont be voted back in for ages.
Can someone explain to me in simple terms what proportional representation is?
Does it mean that instead of majority seats, ie, having to get 50% + 1 to become the governing party, that it would be dependent only on who has the most seats, ie, conservative would now be running the country with their 307 seats?
Does it mean that instead of majority seats, ie, having to get 50% + 1 to become the governing party, that it would be dependent only on who has the most seats, ie, conservative would now be running the country with their 307 seats?
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They all lost - no single party won enough votes to govern with a majority.
Dolph your pro-Tory blinkers on so hard that you simply can't countenance the idea that PR might be a popular idea and that the Tories should accept that it is something that should be considered?
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6480SY20100509
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6480SY20100509
In what world is this 'support not entirely there'?
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We entered the election with the understanding if he won he would stay for 5 years as PM, if a Lib-Lab pact occurs we will have a new PM no one elected and I doubt many of the British Electorate even knew about.
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It's really complicated - I suggest reading:
Find me a poll with a sample size of millions (where first people are asked to explain what PR is) and I'll believe you. The very name induces bias (proportional).
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No, it means you get seats according to how many votes you got.
You're looking into your clouded crystal balls again.
Look you ninny, most of the electorate haven't got the slightest clue about which version of PR the parties propose. Even more of the electorate have absolutely no idea whatsoever about what these PR systems actually entail, how they will work and whether they are any more fair than what we currently have.
Nor do most of the country seem to realise that what is going on now, the backroom deals, the closed meetings and the politicians deciding who 'wins' and governs our country is EXACTLY what you'd get with PR, every single election.
No, it means that the % of seats you get is the same (or, in practice, close to the same) as the % of the vote you get.
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If Gordon Brown steps down, and the Labour Party and Liberals form a coalition who is Prime Minister? not to mention they will be unelected again.
Wouldn't selling out their 100-year old policy for 4 years of short-term influence make them far more of a 'whore' than sticking to their principles?
