** Official ** Summer 2010 Transfer Thread - Signings, Sightings and Rumor's in Here

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goonerfan said:
If it does emerge that Barca have got Villa for 40mil that's ****ing scary....
The top spanish clubs' power in the transfer market is a bit much at the moment, I can't see how the rest of europe is going to keep up.
People are saying that after shelling out that much, they wouldn't be able to afford Cesc too for a similar fee...but they comfortably would. ARGH.
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The points difference between the top two and the rest of La Liga was obscene this season.

No Spanish CL winners though.
 
K1LLSW1TCH said:
Exactly. :p

I don't mouth off about Man Utd being carried totally by Rooney to make up for their utter ****e midfield of cloggers and has-beens but this joker seems to think that our midfield will have no creativity if we lost Cesc this summer (which we won't). Just shows how many times he's actually watched Arsenal play a game.
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Firstly yes you will ;)

Secondly where is this creativity then? Song? Nope. Diaby? Maybe but not week in week out. Denilson? Hah! Ramsey & Wilshire? Both good young players but I have doubts as to whether or not they're ready to step it up to the level that the likes of Spurs and City are at.

Arshavin wants to leave, Rosicky hasn't been the same player that he was before his injury so that leaves Nasri..... wouldn't fill me with confidence

Like I said we were 1 point behind Chelsea for all their supposed brilliance and with Valencia & Nani our team doesn't lack any creativity in the midfield

In fact take a look at the stats...

Arsenal assits (without Csec)

Robin van Persie - 7
Eduardo da Silva - 5
Nicklas Bendtner - 5
Tomas Rosicky - 4
Samir Nasri - 4
Vasiriki Abou Diaby - 3
Aaron Ramsey - 3
Emmanuel Eboué - 3
Theo Walcott - 2
Denilson Pereira Neves - 1

United's assists

Ryan Giggs - 9
Luis Antonio Valencia - 7
Nani - 6
Dimitar Berbatov - 5
Darren Fletcher - 5
Paul Scholes - 3
Wayne Rooney - 3
Darron Gibson -2
Anderson Oliveira - 2
Ji-Sung Park - 1
Michael Carrick - 1

Surprising fact for us is the lack of assists from Carrick & Rooney.... both must have had a off season in that department
 
Don't Barca and Real get 100million + tv deals with Spanish tv? I'm pretty sure that's the case, because there aren't any restrictions in Spain on tv deals and there isn't a joint tv deal like in the prem, which seems completely unfair on teams outside of Spain, and even on La Liga teams other than Barca and Real.
 
B1gbeard said:
I'm less convinced by ManU as I said and their heavy reliance on Rooney if they don't spend money.
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I'm a United fan and I am concerned at the over-reliance on Rooney. As was proven towards the end of the season, if he gets injured United look a bit toothless up front. Unless by some miracle Berbatov actually starts scoring regularly next season, United desperately need to sign a decent striker.
 
Tom84 said:
Firstly yes you will ;)

Secondly where is this creativity then? Song? Nope. Diaby? Maybe but not week in week out. Denilson? Hah! Ramsey & Wilshire? Both good young players but I have doubts as to whether or not they're ready to step it up to the level that the likes of Spurs and City are at.

Arshavin wants to leave, Rosicky hasn't been the same player that he was before his injury so that leaves Nasri..... wouldn't fill me with confidence

Like I said we were 1 point behind Chelsea for all their supposed brilliance and with Valencia & Nani our team doesn't lack any creativity in the midfield

In fact take a look at the stats...

Arsenal assits (without Csec)

Robin van Persie - 7
Eduardo da Silva - 5
Nicklas Bendtner - 5
Tomas Rosicky - 4
Samir Nasri - 4
Vasiriki Abou Diaby - 3
Aaron Ramsey - 3
Emmanuel Eboué - 3
Theo Walcott - 2
Denilson Pereira Neves - 1

United's assists

Ryan Giggs - 9
Luis Antonio Valencia - 7
Nani - 6
Dimitar Berbatov - 5
Darren Fletcher - 5
Paul Scholes - 3
Wayne Rooney - 3
Darron Gibson -2
Anderson Oliveira - 2
Ji-Sung Park - 1
Michael Carrick - 1

Surprising fact for us is the lack of assists from Carrick & Rooney.... both must have had a off season in that department
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So what you're saying is that even though we will be lacking creativity in our squad, it still puts us not very far behind Utd? Doesn't say much for your squad and how many seasons is Giggs going to carry on for? I'd give him 2 at the most before he breaks a hip and has to hop off to the retirement home. If you've taken our highest scoring assister out then those stats look much less impressive if you remove Giggs from yours.

Paul Scholes with 3 assists puts him on the same level of usefulness as Ramsey who's just had a double leg break. So what those stats entail is that Paul Scholes is actually as effective as a 19 year old with a broken leg? :p

Sorry but those stats don't mean that much to me. We lost 2 more games than Utd all year and both teams have had their injury woes so in fairness Utd are not much higher up in form or skill than Arsenal, if at all. Not to mention your very large slice of luck against us earlier in the season with a Diaby OG and a Rooney penalty. As well as the customary Fergie Time and a striker who's dug you out of a hole many times this season.
 
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K1LLSW1TCH said:
Sorry but those stats don't mean that much to me. We lost 2 more games than Utd all year and both teams have had their injury woes so in fairness Utd are not much higher up in form or skill than Arsenal, if at all. Not to mention your very large slice of luck against us earlier in the season with a Diaby OG and a Rooney penalty.
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The game at the Emerites where we completely dominated you would say differently

Not to mention the gulf in class in the two Champions League ties the season before
 
I can't comment on the ManU figures other than Valencia and Nani seem inconsistent (Eduardo is almost as good in this respect and has been a liability fitness wise for example).

As to the Arsenal one's. RvP missed half the season, maybe more figuring in the CL games etc. Eduardo as above. Nasri had a broken leg at the start of the season. Bendtner was injured for a fair period. Walcott for most of the season. Rosicky was Mr Injured. You can't tell anything conclusive about well, anything, looking at those figures. We also wouldn't just lose Fab's input. There would be a replacement of some kind.

In fact looking at it, with Giggs and Scholes another year older, thats a decidedly inconsistent looking bunch.

Tom84 said:
Firstly yes you will ;)

Secondly where is this creativity then? Song? Nope. Diaby? Maybe but not week in week out. Denilson? Hah! Ramsey & Wilshire? Both good young players but I have doubts as to whether or not they're ready to step it up to the level that the likes of Spurs and City are at.

Arshavin wants to leave, Rosicky hasn't been the same player that he was before his injury so that leaves Nasri..... wouldn't fill me with confidence

Like I said we were 1 point behind Chelsea for all their supposed brilliance and with Valencia & Nani our team doesn't lack any creativity in the midfield

In fact take a look at the stats...

Arsenal assits (without Csec)

Robin van Persie - 7
Eduardo da Silva - 5
Nicklas Bendtner - 5
Tomas Rosicky - 4
Samir Nasri - 4
Vasiriki Abou Diaby - 3
Aaron Ramsey - 3
Emmanuel Eboué - 3
Theo Walcott - 2
Denilson Pereira Neves - 1

United's assists

Ryan Giggs - 9
Luis Antonio Valencia - 7
Nani - 6
Dimitar Berbatov - 5
Darren Fletcher - 5
Paul Scholes - 3
Wayne Rooney - 3
Darron Gibson -2
Anderson Oliveira - 2
Ji-Sung Park - 1
Michael Carrick - 1

Surprising fact for us is the lack of assists from Carrick & Rooney.... both must have had a off season in that department
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B1gbeard said:
I can't comment on the ManU figures other than Valencia and Nani seem inconsistent (Eduardo is almost as good in this respect and has been a liability fitness wise for example).

As to the Arsenal one's. RvP missed half the season, maybe more figuring in the CL games etc. Eduardo as above. Nasri had a broken leg at the start of the season. Bendtner was injured for a fair period. Walcott for most of the season. Rosicky was Mr Injured. You can't tell anything conclusive about well, anything, looking at those figures. We also wouldn't just lose Fab's input. There would be a replacement of some kind.

In fact looking at it, with Giggs and Scholes another year older, thats a decidedly inconsistent looking bunch.
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You really believe that? Who would you get in to replace him then?

I can see Wenger just promoting Wilshire up to the first team and that be it
 
Spawn said:
LOL probably....dont know why he spouts off such nonsense but i guess it keeps him in a job.
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Are you suggesting there's nothing to the story? :o

Whether Fabregas ultimately joins Barca this summer or not, there's clearly something to this.

Barca's statement that they'll respect Arsenal is nothing short of BS. You think Fabregas has decided out of the blue that he wants to leave? Of course not, Barca have tapped Fabregas up.

Arsenal saying they haven't received any bids is meaningless too; when we sold Alonso last summer, we were saying the same thing up until a few days before he actually left. There's a difference between a formal bid and enquiries being made, possible through agents.
 
Tom84 said:
If we're reliant on Rooney what the hell are Arsenal without Fabregas? :rolleyes:
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Not as reliant as you are with Rooney:rolleyes:...tell me where the bulk of your goals came from this season??...Rooney wasnt it??...imagine if you didnt have him or he was injured for most of the season...who would have scored the majority of your goals?? Berba flop??? LOL.
 
Tom84 said:
You really believe that? Who would you get in to replace him then?

I can see Wenger just promoting Wilshire up to the first team and that be it
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It wont be Wilshere....it will be Ramsey that would take over from Fabregas, if he ever gets back to fitness after his broken leg...again you show your astounding lack of info regarding Arsenal.
 
BaZ87 said:
Are you suggesting there's nothing to the story? :o

Whether Fabregas ultimately joins Barca this summer or not, there's clearly something to this.

Barca's statement that they'll respect Arsenal is nothing short of BS. You think Fabregas has decided out of the blue that he wants to leave? Of course not, Barca have tapped Fabregas up.

Arsenal saying they haven't received any bids is meaningless too; when we sold Alonso last summer, we were saying the same thing up until a few days before he actually left. There's a difference between a formal bid and enquiries being made, possible through agents.
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Of course there is something to it. We've all known it pretty much for years.

He is going at some point, but the only evidence so far that its this season is something that Ballague has put on his website that everyone has picked up on.
 
Tom84 said:
You really believe that? Who would you get in to replace him then?

I can see Wenger just promoting Wilshire up to the first team and that be it
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I didn't say we would get a like for like replacement. We probably wouldn't spend the money and even as a Gooner, being honest, I think that if a like for like was available, they would probably be going to someone like City.

There would be someone though.
 
Cesc has been very open about wanting to return to Barca one day. It seems as if it might not be this summer but of course there is a long way to go yet. It's just imperative that we either keep him or get BIG money for him and replace him. I see the Arteta stories are surfacing again. I rate him but don't think it would be Wenger's style.
 
BaZ87 said:
Are you suggesting there's nothing to the story? :o

Whether Fabregas ultimately joins Barca this summer or not, there's clearly something to this.

Barca's statement that they'll respect Arsenal is nothing short of BS. You think Fabregas has decided out of the blue that he wants to leave? Of course not, Barca have tapped Fabregas up.

Arsenal saying they haven't received any bids is meaningless too; when we sold Alonso last summer, we were saying the same thing up until a few days before he actually left. There's a difference between a formal bid and enquiries being made, possible through agents.
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Im not saying anything of the sort BUT until i hear otherwise either from Arsenal or Fabregas i wont believe a word the media is spouting off.

Whether or not they have tapped him up is another question entirely...Barca know that Fab wants to play for them simple as that;)...they and Arsenal know it will happen one day...maybe this season and if not definitely next season unless we win the prem, CL, FA and worthless cup trophies then maybe he will stick around...but its a cert that Fab will go to Barca at some point in the near future.

Now whether or not Barca can afford Fab is another question seeing as they just splurged 40mill euros on David Villa...if Barca want Fab, then Arsenal need to stick a £50mill+ price tag on him and see if Barca bite...if they do then let him go but i wouldnt want anything less than £50mill at least.

Like i said no formal approach has been made...if its being done undercover style then we will soon find out.

Still im confident that Fab will be with us next season...if not then its not the end of the world for us as Wenger probably has a good idea as to who is going to take over should Fab leave.
 
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