Poll: Poll: should the UK ban the islamic veil?

[Narj]

Where's the "I LOVE VEILS" option?

I am disappoint.

Don't ban them, I want to walk around the streets in a balaclava

 

[dirtydog]

Seems we are the common dissenter again...

Maybe many western people simply find it an affront to their way of life in the same way a bikini would be viewed in Pakistan?

That's why they all head to Britain isn't it, the soft touch of the world.

Come here, take over, don't adopt our culture, don't speak our language, set up your own areas, have huge families and we'll pay for you to live in a nice big house etc.

Apparently it is 'racist' to point out inconvenient facts like this.

 

[The_Abyss]

No, there should be no law expressly banning Muslim veils. If you want to ban covering the face, then have a ban from covering the face.

This.

 

[robgmun]

Walk down any high street with a full balaclava on and see how far you get before you get stopped

 

[The_Abyss]

There's no cultural background to wearing a balaclava, other than a war in Crimea a long time ago and some naff 70s SAS film. Plus it is summer and 28 degrees outside.

 

[eatcustard]

Radio 5 early this morning have said, more and more people want the veil banned.

mabe the ball is starting to roll?

 

[bsoltan]

So it is opressive for women to wear something to cover their head. Yet it isn't opressive to ban such items, therefore forcing them not to wear them... nice one.

 

[nick1988]

Personally the veil's dont really bother me that much and I dont really mind if people want to wear them or not. My main gripe about the whole situation is that if you were female (from the UK etc) and ended up in a islamic country they would expect you to wear a veil out of respect for their beliefs which again I can accept that as 99 times out of a 100 its personal choice if you end up in such a country. So surely it should be the same for people that are choosing to live in the UK?

 

[semi-pro waster]

I'm told it's a sign of respect, not oppression. Men should turn their heads from women as they pass so as not to be treating them as "decoration". Or something like that.

This is one of the things that I don't like about veils although I didn't mention it before - it's the immediate presumption that without this enforced "modesty" men and women cannot be trusted not to give in to carnal lust on sight. I can't help thinking that if you treat people as if they are untrustworthy then a lot of the time you'll be right - behaviour follows leadership as it were.

Also makes me laugh how a lot of these musilm women go to fashion shops and buy expensive, trendy clothes. What's the point when they're hidden under a massive black tea cloth, lol?

Because maybe they aren't wearing the expensive, trendy clothes just for you to look at? Perhaps it makes them feel good to wear something that they like? Maybe when not in public they will show off the clothes.

As objections go it isn't a great one - essentially it says if something isn't on public display at all times then you shouldn't buy anything but the most basic so it's arguing through vanity.

 

[Margaret]

They are going on about this now on This Morning, the raghead (kidding ) woman is well annoying.

Not that I'm watching This Morning...

 

[Narj]

I reckon it'd be quite a laugh to dress up in a Burkha and wander into Ann Summers, inspecting the Rampant Rabbits and the like... just to see what sort of reaction you got. Someone needs to do this in a comedy sketch

 

[bledd]

No pancake

Voted no, as I could give a monkey

 

[Tefal]

No pancake

Voted no, as I could give a monkey a hj

 

[FTM]

So it is opressive for women to wear something to cover their head. Yet it isn't opressive to ban such items, therefore forcing them not to wear them... nice one.

about sums it up

they are forced to don it by their religion/spouse/culture or they are forced not to wear it by the law

perhaps some are forced to wear it, and perhaps some wear it out of respect, but surely it should be up to their own free will either way?!

how is making a law to force them not to wear it any better then being forced to wear it?

 

[Tefal]

I reckon it'd be quite a laugh to dress up in a Burkha and wander into Ann Summers, inspecting the Rampant Rabbits and the like... just to see what sort of reaction you got. Someone needs to do this in a comedy sketch

If you're a bloke unless you spend quite a lot of time practising your walk it's going to be pretty obvious that you're a dude in Burkha (and a gay one at that)


Also what will you say if they ask if you need help?

 

[LiamC]

Ban them.

If they dont like it, they know where to go...

 

[Tefal]

No offense Efour but I share your ignorance. I would be lying if I said I didn't get ever so slightly twitchy around full on Islamic dressed individuals. I'll admit I'm a noob for being prejudice I can only put that down to how Islamic extremists are portrayed in the media, almost everything trivial involving the middle east is dramatized in the news.

You're twice the size of the average person what the hell are you worried about?

 

[EvilOne]

I think people are voting yes for all the wrong reasons, veil's aren't a big securaty threat, but this sure would get up the noise's of islamic people. If they followed traditional english values they would be in the kitchen anyways, so we would'nt see them anyways lol. If we are beyond that, we should be beyond this too.

I voted No, people should be able to wear what they want, within reason.

 

[gettothechopper]

if you are scared of a woman with a bit of cloth on her face then lol

i dont like the idea that we can ban things just because itmakes some people slightly uncomfortable (only about as uncomfortable than being around someone who farted in the supermarket or as uncomforable as when you auntie asks your girlfriend when the wedding is or about how much you have grown )

 

[doiks14]

about sums it up

they are forced to don it by their religion/spouse/culture or they are forced not to wear it by the law

perhaps some are forced to wear it, and perhaps some wear it out of respect, but surely it should be up to their own free will either way?!

how is making a law to force them not to wear it any better then being forced to wear it?

I hate arguements like this..

It makes a big difference, because it means that here in the UK, you'll have to live by our rules and adapt to our culture !!! You don't just stay here and become one of us without adapting to our culture? This is how it was done in the old days, this is how it should be done now...

So, you're saying that if I make up some sort of religion that makes you believe being nude at all times makes god proud or maybe something even more ridiculous. would you want to change the law about nudity here in the UK?

There is nowhere in the world which is completely free, you are always bound by laws/rules in some way, read my previous post for an example..

Live in the real world... seriously...

edit: Here is an example.. I truly believe that violence is a good thing when it is done to people that deserve it.. yet the UK Law doesn't allow me to do that.. Should I complain about it with the government to change it?

edit: 666 post, haha