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Fr0dders · 10 Oct 2010 at 20:50

because the number plate is in a recess lower down the bumper instead ?

Jeez your argumentative tonight fox.

Z3M with number plate under chrome bar and no recess in bumper

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2109986.htm

Z3 non m bumper with recess for plate in bumper :

mjt · 10 Oct 2010 at 20:59

[TW]Fox;17547430 said:
So you've basically got a numberplate area with... nothing in it? Why is that?

Probably to distinguish it from the M Coupe. It's much shorter on the M, too.

[TW]Fox · 10 Oct 2010 at 21:02

MrLOL said:
because the number plate is in a recess lower down the bumper instead ?

Jeez your argumentative tonight fox.

Thanks for that pointless demonstration of what I already knew.

The question was 'Why did BMW chose to have different numberplate locations on different models, to the extent that one of the versions ended up with effectively two numberplate recesses, only one of which was used'.

joewm18 · 10 Oct 2010 at 21:28

Re my mx5 exhaust, the right side does appear a tiny bit lower. It's very secure however, I'm not sure what length I would go towards trying to rectify this, if any length at all. Personally I love the look of the exhaust, I think it gives the car a much more meaner appearance. As for the sound, its awesome! Changing it to stock would be like having it castrated imo.

Fr0dders · 10 Oct 2010 at 21:47

[TW]Fox;17547872 said:
Thanks for that pointless demonstration of what I already knew.

The question was 'Why did BMW chose to have different numberplate locations on different models, to the extent that one of the versions ended up with effectively two numberplate recesses, only one of which was used'.

the usual fox arrogance i see. Your exact wording was

[TW]Fox;17547430 said:
So you've basically got a numberplate area with... nothing in it? Why is that?

the YOU part implies you were addressing the question to him as though he had to answer for its location.

Had you posted what you did 2nd time, you wouldnt come over quite as being quite so accusational.

[TW]Fox · 10 Oct 2010 at 21:50

He'd already explained an HOUR previously that it was different on the M Coupe so even if you didnt realise I knew already, the fact the post I replied to explains it should have given away the fact I... already knew, and was asking why it was so, as its pretty odd.

agw_01 · 10 Oct 2010 at 22:54

I've seen one or two of those Astra Turbos around and always wondered what engine they used. De-tuned Z20LET?

I do like the Astra with that kit and wheels, similar to how I liked the Mk4 GSi. Smart looking cars.

Rizo-UK · 10 Oct 2010 at 22:57

agw_01 said:
I've seen one or two of those Astra Turbos around and always wondered what engine they used. De-tuned Z20LET?

I do like the Astra with that kit and wheels, similar to how I liked the Mk4 GSi. Smart looking cars.

Detuned Z20LEH (VXR Engine)

Offical Code for mine is Z20LER. same management, gearbox, flywheel etc just i have balancer shafts and a little less bhp.

Fr0dders · 10 Oct 2010 at 22:58

Its a Z20LET yes.

agw_01 · 10 Oct 2010 at 23:00

Interesting

I've seen a few unmarked Vectras used by the police sporting a Turbo badge. I take it these are also slightly under tuned compared to the VXR versions?

Rizo-UK · 10 Oct 2010 at 23:02

MrLOL said:
Its a Z20LET yes.

dont insult my car lol

it a Z20LER :cool:

much more capable

Fr0dders · 10 Oct 2010 at 23:03

just googled and the Z20LET is the code for the 2.0 Turbo prior to 2005 with 170bhp

The engine was revised in 2005 to the 200bhp and had the code Z20LER. VXR is Z20LEH with 240bhp.

Rizo-UK · 10 Oct 2010 at 23:03

agw_01 said:
Interesting

I've seen a few unmarked Vectras used by the police sporting a Turbo badge. I take it these are also slightly under tuned compared to the VXR versions?

they can often be the same 255 or 280 ps versions. depending on year

Rizo-UK · 10 Oct 2010 at 23:06

Z20LET is MK4 SRiT @189BHP , Coupe turbo@ 189BHP and GSI @197BHP

Z20LEL is the 170 BHP MK5 astra in 3dr or 5dr, no xp on 5 dr, only available on 3 door with 170bhp.

Z20LER is the 200 BHP MK5 only available with the XP and 5DR. no 200bhp option for 3drs

Z20LEH is the 240 BHP MK5 3 DR VXR

Fr0dders · 10 Oct 2010 at 23:10

so the Z20LET was the GSI engine ?

confused now !

Rizo-UK · 10 Oct 2010 at 23:12

indeed

The MK4 GSi used the Z20LET engine

Rizo-UK · 10 Oct 2010 at 23:13

agw_01 said:
Interesting

I've seen a few unmarked Vectras used by the police sporting a Turbo badge. I take it these are also slightly under tuned compared to the VXR versions?

just for the record they are 2.8 V6 Turbocharged engines capable of very high power with a few choice mods. 400bhp is easy

Fr0dders · 10 Oct 2010 at 23:14

No it aint

Rizo-UK · 10 Oct 2010 at 23:17

no it aint what?

i'm confused now lol

Fr0dders · 10 Oct 2010 at 23:19

Easy to get 400bhp. Nobody has done it yet. For the record. My old one

The biggest problem with tuning the Z28NET is the ammount of superheated water that the turbo throws out. Courtenay has a nice whacking great water radiator and intercooler available to help combat this, but this only keeps the 300bhp of the Stage 1 Remap usable all year round.

With sustained prolonged use in the summer, your 300bhp Stage 1 vectra wont be 300bhp for long as the water temps reach 107 +