Took a "Blobeye" Impreza STI PPP out today

Yes, but it's hardly going to make your wife/girlfriend a widow and your child fatherless, is it?

I'm not saying it's a questionable choice, but I'm not getting the whole "It's a silly idea because you have a family" angle.
 
[FnG]magnolia;17607831 said:
What ... what happened here? The OP is seriously going to buy a version of the car that he was terribly underwhelmed with in his first post? Christ, I thought he was kidding.

Huh? Did you forget the discussion we have this afternoon? What happened to
[FnG]magnolia said:
Fair enough and good luck.
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Yes, but it's hardly going to make your wife/girlfriend a widow and your child fatherless, is it?

I'm not saying it's a questionable choice, but I'm not getting the whole "It's a silly idea because you have a family" angle.

Fox is just looking for something to pick at.
 
No, I didn't forget but I can see how my disbelief didn't come across properly. I think you're crazy to go for an RA but I hope it works out for you (genuinely this time, heh).
 
I assume that's aimed at me. Let's see :

1. You don't seem to know anything about them.
2. You were underwhelmed with a variant of the car you are now talking about buying (remember you came in to this thread to tell us that it felt no faster than your ST).
3. I'm going to guess you haven't test-driven one.

'Crazy' was perhaps harsh. I find it baffling that you now want to buy the very thing you told us you weren't impressed with, though.

I'll shut up now so yes, please get on with your life.
 
No, a Ford Focus ST and a Subaru WRX STI are completely different cars.

A Subaru WRX STI and a Subaru WRX STI RA are not completely different cars.

One is a variant of the other and if you didn't like the one you test drove I can't imagine you'll like the one which you haven't test driven. Where are you going to get one to test drive it? These aren't common cars and the few on PH are old.
 
[TW]Fox;17609871 said:
He's actually said he's not, he's going to just buy it and then sell it if he doesnt like it (????).

Do you think that's how he bought his house?

"no darling, no need to go and see it, I'll just sell it if we don't like it"

I've got to stop coming into these threads, this one has managed to start my day with a headache
 
[FnG]magnolia;17609664 said:
No, a Ford Focus ST and a Subaru WRX STI are completely different cars.

A Subaru WRX STI and a Subaru WRX STI RA are not completely different cars.

One is a variant of the other and if you didn't like the one you test drove I can't imagine you'll like the one which you haven't test driven. Where are you going to get one to test drive it? These aren't common cars and the few on PH are old.

Why is a Focus ST relevant?

They are not variants of each other. One comes from 1994, the other from 2005 - there is over 10 years between them and most Subaru fanbois will tell you the Classic is more raw and focussed - the only thing these cars have in common is a Subaru badge and 4WD.

What you're saying is like telling me a Ford Escort GTi is a variant of a Focus ST. It's just not true.

I have a friend with a mint one, not sure if I can blag a test drive or not, but I will be seeking his advice when looking at one and will no doubt get a passenger ride. I will get a chance to test drive one when I turn up to view one?

Seriously, I don't see what the problem is here. First of all I'm wrong for dismissing 4WD, and now I'm wrong for listening to people and wanting to give it a chance.

Fox, do you have anything interesting or relevant to add? You haven't managed it since the beginning of page 2 - nearly 6 pages ago.
 
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Did the RA have central locking as the one I tried years ago didn't and the lack of ABS would put me off totally these days.

Some did some didn't - it was an option. Mine did. The first RAs didn't have leccy windows, A/C or central locking. They were supposed to be lightweight but as to how much lighter is questionable. Its the gearing that makes them blindingly fast but don't take on anything thats designed for even mild motorway use because once you run out of gears at 120 you look silly - you get to 120 quicker than most things though :D

If you can cope with the gearing get an RA - its got the same turbo as the STI, same gearbox and you get to pay about £200 less for insurance for a car just as quick. As for engine internals well, if it pops it pops which it might do eventually.

[FnG]magnolia;17609664 said:
if you didn't like the one you test drove I can't imagine you'll like the one which you haven't test driven.

I've only driven an 05WRX so don't know what a newage STI feels like but classics feel much more lively and chuck-able. I've driven mapped UK turbo, Type R V4, P1, 05WRX and Type RA. Was suprised by how quick the 05WRX felt considering its extra weight and I think it was mapped or PPP but the lady didn't know (bare history) The Type R was a let down and didn't feel that much faster than my UK turbo. The P1 was quick and quicker than the Type R and the RA was quicker than the lot of them :)
 
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When I had a PPP'd WRX (had the prodrive handling pack too) I'd run rings around mine mates Classic Turbo - although that was a standard car so it wasn't an entirely fair comparison.
 
Why is a Focus ST relevant?

I thought you owned an ST and in your OP said that the WRX STI PPP was underwhelming compared to it. This is a comparison.

They are not variants of each other.

They are more of a variant than they are 'completely different cars'. I'm not going to get into a semantics battle with you.

One comes from 1994, the other from 2005 - there is over 10 years between them and most Subaru fanbois will tell you the Classic is more raw and focussed - the only thing these cars have in common is a Subaru badge and 4WD.

Raw, focussed, faster, more compelling - I know all of this but it's good to see that you do too. Seeing as you're going to buy one. They have far more in common than just AWD.

What you're saying is like telling me a Ford Escort GTi is a variant of a Focus ST. It's just not true.

I'm not saying that at all.

I have a friend with a mint one, not sure if I can blag a test drive or not, but I will be seeking his advice when looking at one and will no doubt get a passenger ride. I will get a chance to test drive one when I turn up to view one?

That's actually great news. Which year and model does he have because they do differ slightly.

Seriously, I don't see what the problem is here. First of all I'm wrong for dismissing 4WD, and now I'm wrong for listening to people and wanting to give it a chance.

It's not that you're wrong for wanting to give it a chance (they're great, great cars for what they do), it's more that you were underwhelmed by a WRX STI PPP and think that the RA spec will somehow change your opinion in every way ... without having ever driven one! Don't you see how that could be viewed as, well, a little bit odd?
 
His is a V3 STI RA, IIRC.

I explained a few threads back that the underwhelmed feeling was more from high expectations than it being that bad. I also explained about cost, feel and focus. Essentially an RA would be a car with different uses than the MY05 would be for me.

It may be odd, but that is the only way I can truly experience one. No one is going to lend me one for a few weeks/months. It isn't like they are cars suffering from huge depreciation, so its not even likely to cost me anything.
 
My made up friend said:
Hi Mike, I'm a bit busy today at work to give you a decent reply now so I'll get back to you tonight.

Mine is actually an STI RA, that is what you will need to look for if you want DCCD, the RA never had it.

Insurance is a bitch, I'm 40 and pay £460 and I shopped around big time.

This is a good site to look at

http://www.type-ra.co.uk/

Dave

:)

There are a lot of people into their cars over here, and belonging to a fairly large motoring club over here - I know most of them. It isn't that hard to comprehend, really.
 
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