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Gilly said:
On that, it isn't Crouch's fault he gets lumped rubbish balls up to him. He's better than that.
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True. The same thing happens when Crouch plays for England, defenders just seem to lump it up to him. The thing is he has been effective in Europe this year, and has a good scoring record Internationally, but teams have worked him out long ago in the Prem.
 
Crouch lol. How is he playing at this level (because he's tall). So, so ordinary. Wouldn't look out of place spearheading Wednesday.
 
jakeke said:
Crouch lol. How is he playing at this level (because he's tall). So, so ordinary. Wouldn't look out of place spearheading Wednesday.
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His record for England suggests otherwise ;)

Not to mention he scored a hat-trick against Arsenal not so many years ago, or did Arsenal have a Championship level defence then?
 
Anybody can see he's by far the worst player in the current Spurs team, so lucky to be playing in that team, he ruins nearly every move he's involved in
 
You talkin' to me?

Who in your opinion is worse than Crouch in Spurs first XI then? Possibly one of your fullbacks but BAE he has improved this season, apart from that Crouch sticks out like a sore thumb when trying to play with the likes of Modric and VdV, he's miles off them
 
Tom84 said:
His record for England suggests otherwise ;)

Not to mention he scored a hat-trick against Arsenal not so many years ago, or did Arsenal have a Championship level defence then?
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Firstly, international level is an entire joke, there are 3-4 teams that could make it in the premier league, Jamaica(iirc it was them who Crouch got eleventy billion goals against) would get thrashed by Brentford, which is probably a good indication of Crouch's real level.

Since when haven't Arsenal had a championship level defence is the real question?

Anyway, he might be better with his feet, that doesn't really suggest why he fails to score with his feet much though, or why he's starting ahead of the leading premiership scorer for Spurs in the past season, or the second leading scorer, or even trying the other one at all.

Why on earth they need an "assist machine" in a team with Lennon, Bale, Niko, VDV, Modric, Hutton, etc, etc, etc in I don't know.

Did Spurs need Crouch against truly rubbish Chelsea sides, or 10 men rubbish Utd sides, no, they just wanted someone who could actually put the ball in the net. The problem in football is this incessant need to quantify every player in the team, he's great because he's not great defensively but he really helps going forwards, ok he doesn't score but he helps others score, now and then.

Its nice to have all round players that aren't just one dimensional, but at the end of the day you need a striker in your team who can score, and when you essentially play 4-5-1 with a free role not quite striker VDV its EVEN MORE important the striker you pick CAN SCORE. Glen Johnson might get 1-2 goals more than your average full back a season, but it doesn't actually make him a good defender, because his epic mistakes will cost you a lot more than that.

When you have a specific position, you need to fill that positions MAIN role, and then added benifits like setting up goals for others is a BONUS. Spurs desparately need a real striker upfront, the ridiculous thing is they have two far better ones on the bench most weeks. Redknapp seems intent on spending 15-768million on another striker at the moment, yet if you only play one striker, and he keeps choosing Crouch over better options, whats the point exactly?
 
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Most apurs fans hate him, myself included. why on earth he ever starts i do not know. when we play quick ball to feet football we are amazing. as soon as crouch comes on it goes **** up.
 
How many goals would VDV have if it wasn't for Crouch?

He's not the most graceful of players but very underrated IMO, I wouldn't have him at United dont get me wrong but he's effective for Spurs and dare I say it Liverpool could have done with him over the last couple of years also
 
DiCe! said:
Most apurs fans hate him, myself included. why on earth he ever starts i do not know. when we play quick ball to feet football we are amazing. as soon as crouch comes on it goes **** up.
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surely thats not crouches fault though....the rest of the team must train with him and the manager must know his strengths...its just the easy option for a defender under pressure.
 
Playing crouch because VDV may score just aint right. Its like Heskey playing because Rooney played well with him, yet like Crouch Heskey rarely scored, unless the ball hit him and went in.

If VDV is not scoring where are the goals going to come from? Up until now we have been lucky-in that Bale had been banging a few in, with Lennon popping up with the odd goal, Bale is now injured and in any case you shouldn't be relying on a winger to be your top scoring (well unless its Ronaldo). The strikers on the other hand need to be changed, Crouch in particular.
 
crackerman said:
Playing crouch because VDV may score just aint right. Its like Heskey playing because Rooney played well with him, yet like Crouch Heskey rarely scored, unless the ball hit him and went in.

If VDV is not scoring where are the goals going to come from? Up until now we have been lucky-in that Bale had been banging a few in, with Lennon popping up with the odd goal, Bale is now injured and in any case you shouldn't be relying on a winger to be your top scoring (well unless its Ronaldo). The strikers on the other hand need to be changed, Crouch in particular.
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Exactly, VDV plus a good player is ALWAYS a better option than VDV plus a crap player. What would be better at this point Pav with 10-15 goals, and VDV with 3-4 less, or VDV with 3-4 more and Crouch with 1 goal.......... Pretty obvious answer.

Your example is spot on, playing Heskey because Rooney played well with him, was rubbish, firstly Rooney played well because Rooney played well, Heskey never did but against truly rubbish teams he was still better than the opposition. If we ever played against a proper team, Heskey was rubbish, and was no help at all to Rooney, a proper player might have still been good enough.

Pav has played well and has a high scoring ratio despite being told he's rubbish consistantly by the manager, dropped after scoring and having no form with no consistant games, he'd do better with more games because theres about 3 in every 1000 footballers who don't improve with being played more regularly.

Pav's better in the air(I don't know this for sure, I assume it because theres few worse in the air than Crouch) and he's certainly better with his feet, so what does Crouch bring, draws against rubbish teams that cried out for a real striker.

You can get away with a Crouch, in a 4-4-2, with a real striker ahead of him, VDV ain't a striker, Crouch ain't a striker, Spurs need a striker. They aren't Birmingham who don't have anyone better than Jerome on the bench, they have 2 massively better strikers and one Keane who when played consistantly was always better than Crouch is now.
 
It does constantly surprie me that Crouch play ahead of the Russian whose name I can't be bothered to google. He always looks twice the player Crouch is
 
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