January Transfer Window 2010/2011 Season Rumours/Signings

Our situation counts for nothing providing he's still regarded as a world class player and the demand there is for his services is still there. Unlike other clubs, we're under no pressure to sell him to service debt anymore.

I agree that the likelyhood of keeping hold of him will be determined by the next 2 transfer windows but I can't see that affecting his transfer fee.

well if these ffp regulations come into force and work there's the pressure. The lack of income from CL tv and prize money will negatively impact your ability to sign players.

It'd be for the owners to decide whether the money they could get for him could be better used elsewhere in the squad.

All hypotheticals though and if you keep him on then good luck to you, if you sell him then fair enough and hopefully it'll strengthen your squad in the long run.
 
No Champions League this season or next

Is the season over :confused:

Liverpool are not far of Champions League spots, I think after what has happened so far this season it would be stupid to rule anything out. After all according to most people Chelsea has the title all but wrapped up a month in.
 
I think a lot will hinge on where Liverpool finish this season and if Torres feels it's in his best interest to stay.

Missing out on Europe this season could be huge.
 
well if these ffp regulations come into force and work there's the pressure. The lack of income from CL tv and prize money will negatively impact your ability to sign players.

It'd be for the owners to decide whether the money they could get for him could be better used elsewhere in the squad.

All hypotheticals though and if you keep him on then good luck to you, if you sell him then fair enough and hopefully it'll strengthen your squad in the long run.

Whether they decide it's best to cash in on him or not (and I've raised the question before myself), they still wouldn't accept an offer of £35m for him while he's regarded as highly as he is. If Torres were to become available, there would be enough interest in him that it would keep his transfer fee closer to the £50m mark.

You have to remember that this offer of £35-40m is Chelsea's first bid and more than likely it's an attempt to test the water to see if we're open to selling him. The likelyhood is that if we were to be interested in selling him, Chelsea would already know they'd have to offer more than what they have.
 
Is the season over :confused:

Liverpool are not far of Champions League spots, I think after what has happened so far this season it would be stupid to rule anything out. After all according to most people Chelsea has the title all but wrapped up a month in.

Behave, who's going to completely capitulate and let them in then? Because for Liverpool to finish in the top 4 then they'd need at least 2 teams to completely fall away, that wont happen with United or Arsenal, Chelsea have had their blip I'm fairly certain of that so that leaves Liverpool needing both City and Spurs to have disastrous second halves of the season which wont happen
 
FFP rules will be a pile of poo with loop holes knowing FIFA making them near enough nullified.

Torres has looked unhappy, until the king came, same with every other player.

I wouldn't cash in on Torres to buy 2-3 more players, but I guess I just like him too much rather than thinking logically.

We still have a chance at Europa league(in b4 mickey mouse cup) and if the right investments are made in the summer and if Torres and co see the club heading in the right direction I'm sure they'll stay.
Hope the owners can provide this, and if he does leave it isn't too some other English team, I'm sure spurs think they could get him.

Edit: I used foul language
 
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Star out the sweary Purdy.

edit: I'm sure most people knowthis but this certainly isn't the first bid we've received for Torres. Every summer since he signed we've had clubs sniffing around and he's always remained content to stay. We can't take that for granted though and like Dan said earlier, we need to repay his loyalty in the next 2 transfer windows and show that our ambitions match his.
 
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Honestly, though I'm not against negotiating hard for the lowest possible fee, Pool need so many players, and really(because of the european qualifaction rules) money is best spent as soon as possible, they are taking their time and not really suggesting they want to spend anywhere close to big.

40mil for Torres who may/may not get injured in the future, may/may not continue to be a moody twit, and certainly isn't worth that much, could mean 3 or even 4 great players could be brought in.

Rooney isn't worth close to 40mil, though while he's scored less than Torres, he also has 41(ish) assists vs Torres 14 or so.

As for all of a sudden being their best player. I'd say Raul is, considering he's scored 2 crucial goals and set up the, lets be honest, tap ins for Torres. They weren't exactly "Torres classics" that he got all on his own.

It all depends though, maybe the owners are willing to spend a buttload, or just hat 40mil doesn't matter to them. They haven't really shown the signs of squad overhaul that you might expect. Not that I'd expect or recommend City type frivolous spending, spending half the month chasing after a guy with a known value by under offering, when you're in desparate need of a couple defenders.


The same can be said of Chelsea, some easier games and a probably couple of wins coupled with shooting up the table that anyone with two wins is doing at the moment, had they offered on Jan 1st, when Liverpool were still losing and Torres hadn't scored, was unhappier and might be more likely to ask for a transfer seems stupid.
 
Star out the sweary Purdy.

edit: I'm sure most people knowthis but this certainly isn't the first bid we've received for Torres. Every summer since he signed we've had clubs sniffing around and he's always remained content to stay. We can't take that for granted though and like Dan said earlier, we need to repay his loyalty in the next 2 transfer windows and show that our ambitions match his.

You'll be the man to know this :p

The bids you've been getting, how much? Not interested in who.

Have they steadily increased as he's proven himself to be better? or have they all been in the same ball park.
 
DM I disagree with the majority of what you write but your suggestion that Meireles is our best player and your justification is laughable.

edit: It was reported that Chelsea had offered ~£50m after his first season and Benitez confirmed we received 3 bids of more than £50m (1 believed to be as much as £70m from City) 2 summers ago, and again there's talk Chelsea bid for him last summer but no solid figures were ever given.

edit again: there was also talk City were in for him last summer but I don't think they actually made a bid.
 
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Pretty sure Chelsea have been sniffing around Torres for a while?

I'm sure city have tried, few non starter rumours about united but you never know.

dm, you still gotta be there to put the tap ins in, and he was instrumental in the build up to the one raul set up, second kuyt set up, scored a cracker against Blackpool, looked good the whole time at wolves and fulham we barely had the ball second half and he was decent first at times.

As for Rooney vs Torres, different players, at the end of the day I'm sure utd fans want rooney, we want Torres, but Torres had the best goal-game ratio since Henry a few games back, 0.66 was it?
How many actually think FFP rules will matter very much and there won't be loopholes?
 
DM I disagree with the majority of what you write but your suggestion that Meireles is our best player and your justification is laughable.

edit: It was reported that Chelsea had offered ~£50m after his first season and Benitez confirmed we received 3 bids of more than £50m (1 believed to be as much as £70m from City) 2 summers ago, and again there's talk Chelsea bid for him last summer but no solid figures were ever given.

So you said it was Soto before Kenny, and Torres now, I'm suggesting in the last few games, your first draw, Raul scored a goal, and in your first win, Raul set up the first goal, then scored the second?

But because Torres scored two tap ins, he's the best player under Kenny, despite the fact he does amongst the least on the team, ok. How is that bad reasoning.
 
There's a big difference between being our best player and being our most in form player. And if it wasn't obvious, my comment about Soto was tongue in cheek.

But if you want to look at our recent games under Dalglish in isolation then Meireles still wouldn't be our 'best player' and not even close. He was useless against Utd, useless against Blackpool, depsite his goal he was useless against Everton, he was excellent against Wolves and had a decent game against Fulham. Off the top of my head, Kelly, Johnson, Lucas, Torres and Maxi have performed consistently at a higher level than him since Dalglish arrived.

Torres is our best player just like Fabregas is Arsenal's and Rooney is Utd's, despite both Nasri and Berbatov having better seasons.
 
To be fair, I did think you were talking about form as you while tongue in cheek were talking about the best player under hodgson then without saying it, infering who the best player under Kenny is.

However, I've rarely if ever rated Torres as your best player, best Striker, sure.

Bent I rate as Spurs, then Sunderlands, now villa's best striker, but he wasn't the best player at any 3 of the clubs(maybe sunderland). Torres puts the ball in the net, but more often than not he (look at chalkboard if you don't believe me) fouls more than any other liverpool player almost every game, loses more tackles than any other liverpool player, and SHOULD be sent off. I think he gave away 10 freekicks in one of the last few games, most players would be sent off for that level of fouling, even girly little fouls, do 10 of them and you're asking for trouble. He's sulky, he's moody, he wastes a LOT of posession, he gives away a lot of freekicks stupidly which often just let the other team waste more time. His passing is poor, defensively, nope, etc, etc. I don't stand in for this rubbish Rooney love in and the current need for every striker to go kick the crap out of the midfield for no reason. He's great at the one thing he does, but he's a pretty one dimensional player. Gerrards always been technically a much better player with vastly more range to his game, passing, defending, shooting, heading, freekicks/corners.

Raul for me is playing now as Gerrard was, his current form is that of old Gerrard, good all round player, if he played as he has in the past 3 games for the next 3 years I'd consider him a better player than Torres.

As for Nasri, you haven't watched much Arsenal if you think he's better, 2nd striker, played loads, 9 goals, decent, but not magical. He's been rubbish in his all around game and has had LOADS of useless games, been completely annonymous in several games, against Utd, away in Europe. Fabregas has really had one bad game in the past year or so. As for Rooney, he's in no way Utd's best player, most popular, highest scorer for one season, best, no. Average crosser, often very poor passer, can't score to save his life at the moment, at his best, the goals went in rather than missing, the rest was the same. Berbatov's passing, vision, ability is something Rooney has never, and will never have. Vidic, Berb, Scholes are all better than Rooney.
 
dm you not like mentioning the Blackpool game?

Torres fouls, Torres loses possession because he turns to attack with no support half the time, especially against fulham. Torres' touch/pass has been on the whole this season I'll give you that but prior to hodge it was sublime, Torres has assisted us getting more points attacking wise than any other player (iam aware this is a strikers job but he's got a lot of **** this season).

And also for all the shot he's getting he's scored more than the 4 spurs strikers combined, Rooney and drog.
 
Torres puts the ball in the net, but more often than not he (look at chalkboard if you don't believe me) fouls more than any other liverpool player almost every game, loses more tackles than any other liverpool player, and SHOULD be sent off. I think he gave away 10 freekicks in one of the last few games, most players would be sent off for that level of fouling, even girly little fouls, do 10 of them and you're asking for trouble.
I can't believe this comment, I don't think there's a player in the PL who gets fouled as much but is not awarded the free-kicks, he doesn't go down clutching his leg or diving for penalties and just gets on with it, many people who I've spoken to (fans of all clubs including Man U, Chelsea and Everton) agree that he is probably one of the most kicked players in the league and should go down more often.
 
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