** Summer Transfer Window 2011/12 Season Rumours/Signings **

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^ Nice :D

I'd rather have Gibson than Adam:

Gibson:
Not good enough for United
Free

Adam:
Not good enough for United
Not free


Gibson was EXACTLY the example i was thinking of! :)

I dont rate him but at least he is established.

I dont rate Adam at that level and he isnt established.

He COULD step up but do we really need to spend the money to find out?

In fact id rather see Pogba etc fail and have taken a punt on the like of him than spend £8m on a punt on Adam.
 
SAF himself said (admittedly with a bit of sarcasm) that Adam was worth £10m for his freekicks / corners alone - and considering how badly Utd need a decent dead ball player £10m would be a small price to pay imo

Open your eyes Frank. We all know why Taggart said what he did. Liverpool were in for Adam so he was sticking his nose in, talking up his value to make things difficult.

And Adam's set-plays are far better than Youngs.
I'd bet on UTD nabbing Adam as a Scholes replacement.

I wouldn't bet against him coming to Liverpool and I'm still not 100% sure what to make of it.

He's got a bit about him but I'm not sure he could go on and become a top CM. Saying that we need a CM and I can't see us being able to sign a proven top CM this summer, he's different to what we've got in midfield, can hit an excellent dead ball and he's still only 25.

A CM quartet of Lucas, Gerrard, Adam and Meireles (with Spearing as cover) may not be as good as the Gerrard, Alonso, Masch and Lucas CM we once had but it's still more than good enough and has a great balance.
Adam:
Not good enough for United
Not free
Tbf he schooled your midfield for 60 minutes when you played Blackpool earlier in the season.
 
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Adam isn't half as bad as he's made out to be. Certainly not worth £15m, but £10m in todays market would be...OK.

Wouldn't want him personally while we have a wealth of midfielders, but he's not a bad player.
 
Tbf he schooled your midfield for 60 minutes when you played Blackpool earlier in the season.

Final score?

Nuf said.

He is a good player but the step up would be HUUUUUUUGE. He was horrific at Ibrox although i accpet that was a long time ago but that was a "top" club with pressure to win etc.
 
Final score?

Nuf said.

He is a good player but the step up would be HUUUUUUUGE. He was horrific at Ibrox although i accpet that was a long time ago but that was a "top" club with pressure to win etc.

The final score wasn't based on the performance of Adam and your midfield alone though, was it? Adam ran the show for 60mins and then Blackpool's legs totally went and you steamrolled them in the last 30mins or so.

I didn't see much of him when he was at Rangers so can't comment too much but he was still fairly young when he was there though.
Crawley Town's midfield did that at times so it's not saying much. He's still not United quality.

I know what you're saying, and I still think the same regarding him coming to Liverpool but whether he's 'United quality' or not, he'd improve your squad if you signed him.

He'd certainly offer you something different to what you've got in midfield at the moment (and an improvement on some of what you've got) and lets be honest, how many of your CM's would you regard as United quality if they weren't at Utd already?

If you're going to go out and spend £15-20m on a top class CM then fair enough, don't sign him but if you're not or can't then at £8m he wouldn't be a bad signing. That's very much the case regarding him possibly coming to us; we need a CM but we will probably be spending the bulk of our money on other positions this summer, ruling out any chance of us spending £10m+ on a CM.
 
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The final score wasn't based on the performance on Adam and your midfield alone though, was it? Adam ran the show for 60mins and then Blackpool's legs totally went and you steamrolled them in the last 30mins or so.

I didn't see much of him when he was at Rangers so can't comment too much but he was still fairly young when he was there though.


I know what you're saying, and I still think the same regarding him coming to Liverpool but whether he's 'United quality' or not, he'd improve your squad if you signed him.

He'd certainly offer you something different to what you've got in midfield at the moment (and an improvement on some of what you've got) and lets be honest, how many of your CM's would you regard as United quality if they weren't at Utd already?

If you're going to go out and spend £15-20m on a top class CM then fair enough, don't sign him but if you're not or can't then at £8m he wouldn't be a bad signing. That's very much the case regarding him possibly coming to us; we need a CM but we will probably be spending the bulk of our money on other positions this summer, ruling out any chance of us spending £10m+ on a CM.

If Darron Gibson was still at Wolves and banging in free kicks and playing like he did in that season would you be saying the same in terms of him being a good signing?
 
If Darron Gibson was still at Wolves and banging in free kicks and playing like he did in that season would you be saying the same in terms of him being a good signing?

If he had as good a season as Adam and your midfield still consisted of Carrick, Fletcher, Anderson and the part-time role from Giggs, yes.

I think it's fairly clear that he'd improve your squad, whether you should sign him or not doesn't only depend on that though. It also depends on whether you can afford to sign a CM on top of whoever else you're signing and if so, whether you can afford to sign anybody better than him.

As it is, I can't think of an obviously better CM than him for ~£8m. If he were to cost more than that then I'd steer clear.
 
I think the only way he'd improve our squad is by increasing the number of players.

Do any of Fletcher, Carrick or Anderson carry the same goal threat or even range of passing in the final 3rd as Adam does? I don't think so.

At the moment your midfield lacks goals and looks slightly unbalanced. There's certainly players that can address all that better than Adam but equally they'd cost more too. As I said, it all depends if you're willing and able to go out and sign a proven top class CM but if not, he'd be an improvement for a decent price.
 
Do any of Fletcher, Carrick or Anderson carry the same goal threat or even range of passing in the final 3rd as Adam does? I don't think so.

At the moment your midfield lacks goals and looks slightly unbalanced. There's certainly players that can address all that better than Adam but equally they'd cost more too. As I said, it all depends if you're willing and able to go out and sign a proven top class CM but if not, he'd be an improvement for a decent price.

The midfield lacks goals and a dead ball player.


Its hard to tick all boxes in the same midfield!
 
So Charlie Adam with 12 goals this season and an accomplished dead ball specialist isn't good enough?

12 goals, 9 assists, great passing, great crossing, great set pieces, good work rate, can make a tackle, is pretty damn strong, good positionally, but because Utd beat Blackpool that means Gibson is better than Adams?

Laughable really as is the ludicrous "X million is about right for him", people pull these numbers right out of their backsides like its a statement of fact. IF Charlie Adams was the joint 2nd highest goal score(well a few joint first and a few officially joint 4th but that sounds weird), and was high up the assisting charts aswell, what makes him worth only 8million while other players who scored and assisted less are worth more than twice as much?

Silva was 20mil +(can't recall how much tbh) and got 1/3rd the goals from a more offensive position in a team that came joint 2nd, not getting relegated.

The most laughable thing is the people who will say the most daft thing, he's not good enough for Utd, he's unproven at this level, its a step up.

Utd played the same teams Blackpool played, Nani, Rooney, Vidic played the same teams Adams played, if he can be very effective in this league against predominantly top half teams, and away from home, what would suggest there is any level to step up too?

He's one of the few players in the league that scored more away than at home, and who got only 1 goal I believe against a relegated team while he got lots against top 6 quality teams.

Adams by any standard in the current pricing of players in this league is worth over 10mil, relegation can certainly cause his value to drop but depends on his contract and if Blackpool have to cash in, which they likely don't.

If he was English, or Spanish people would be creaming over him at 15mil, because he's neither no one thinks he's any good.
 
I wouldn't be against signing Adam (I'd certainly be more pro signing him than Ashley Young), I have my doubts as to whether tactically he's as good as Carrick so i wouldnt see him as a starter week in week out but in terms of bolstering our squad he'd certainly make us stronger in midfield

In terms of his goal return this season though I'd like to see how many of those were penalties and how many were free kicks and how many that would mean he got in open play

As for us lacking goals from midfield that's pretty much been the case since 2003 tbh because let's face it even when Ronaldo was banging them in for fun he was just making up for the lack of goals our strikers were providing and of course it could be argued that Ronaldo wasn't really a midfielder anyway so lack of goals from midfield has hardly been a hinderance to us over the past 5 years has it :cool:
 
Blackpool and Holloway (who gets a small % of the fee's) should have cashed him in at January.

Was there not clubs bidding ~ 14 million? Stupid to turn that down for him to go for less this summer.

But they aren't fighting for a relegation battle now. Would be stupid to sell someone who could possibly keep you up. Now they are down they will sell. I think he will go for around £9-10m
 
On current prices and on how City have ruined the Premier League :rolleyes: he is worth 15m+ considering his skill from dead ball situations and his general play eg good passing range and decent tackler.

However playing for Blackpool in the Championship and Blackpool not wanting to break 10k p/w then he will leave for less than 10m i think.
 
On current prices and on how City have ruined the Premier League :rolleyes: he is worth 15m+ considering his skill from dead ball situations and his general play eg good passing range and decent tackler.

However playing for Blackpool in the Championship and Blackpool not wanting to break 10k p/w then he will leave for less than 10m i think.

City to sign him for £28m in July!
 
Hernandez's agent not exactly slammingthe door on changing clubs:

And his agent Eduardo Hernandez has admitted that he would have to look at any offers.

"I don't think this is the right time to leave, but we have seen everything in football. Both he and Manchester want to continue working together, but anything can happen in football," he told Goal.

"I think this is a subject between directors. We would expect to look closely at any offer...if Manchester told us there was one."

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11667_6954860,00.html
 
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