Poll: Winter Is Coming - HBO's A Game of Thrones [READ WARNING]

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Who will rule Westeros?

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SixTwoSix said:
Just got back from holiday where I managed to read both A Game Of Thrones and A Clash Of Kings and i'm thoroughly impressed.

All I want to say is that I hope and pray the final scene of this season is exactly the same as how GOT ends in the book, it has the potential to be one of the most memorable TV fantasy scenes ever. If you've read the book you know what I mean...if not, wait and see :D
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Just ordered the books, cant wait for them to come, but wont be reading them until the season has finished as i dont want to spoil anything.
 
Gilly said:
I disagree entirely.

Fantasy and Science Fiction are both Fiction, but there the similarities end.

The only crossover is Sci-Fantasy. Neither is a subset of the other, they are wholly different.
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I would also disagree, however I think the prevailing view is as stated; go into a book store these days and the two are merged into one section much of the time (something that has me grinding my teeth).

Although i think this was only done to make room for the massive amount of 'Dark Fantasy' IE Chick Vamp-Wolf Lit that pollutes the shelves these days like a tidal wave of Mills and Boon.
 
No1newts said:
Or Star Wars :D
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Star Wars is fantasy, if one uses the past=fantasy def!!

"A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...."

Given that there is 5-7 books(5 written, 2 to come?) I can only see the plot thickening and very little been resolved over the next 2 episodes. The Stark's haven't a hope on the battlefield, ~35k vs 18k and that is only 1/2 of the Lannister's army, so they will probably need help from the house of Baratheon(they were a little too quiet last week). And then there is the small matter of 40k Dothraki and whatever is on the other side of the wall...
 
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Owenb said:
Star Wars is fantasy, if one uses the past=fantasy def!!

"A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...."

Given that there is 5-7 books(5 written, 2 to come?) I can only see the plot thickening and very little been resolved over the next 2 episodes. The Stark's haven't a hope on the battlefield, ~35k vs 18k and that is only 1/2 of the Lannister's army, so they will probably need help from the house of Baratheon(they were a little too quiet last week). And then there is the small matter of 40k Dothraki and whatever is on the other side of the wall...
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And whatever's coming from North of The Wall, it all seems to be coming to a climax that will almost definitely leave it open for a new series. I thought it was 18k (plus potentially however many they manage to get from the guy at the river crossing) against the 35k, which is split into two groups - the father and the son?

EDIT: Nice edit ;)
 
SixTwoSix said:
All I want to say is that I hope and pray the final scene of this season is exactly the same as how GOT ends in the book, it has the potential to be one of the most memorable TV fantasy scenes ever. If you've read the book you know what I mean...if not, wait and see :D
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Same here, since I heard about the series. Then started watching, that's the one scene I've been hoping they'll attempt. It would be amazing to see it on screen.
 
Oh, don't big it up any more - if i'm any more hyped for it then i'll definitely be disappointed ;)

Really though, these books need to go on my list. To be fair it's a long list, but still :p
 
Heh my 'to read' list is forever getting longer. I've already read these but as soon as this series ends I'm going back to re-read them all.
 
omfgggggggggggggggggg I think I just spaffed in my pants at the latest episode. If I had 4 wishes, after doing the usuals for the first three my final wish would be that GOT had a series for each book and it rose in quality each time. I seriously cannot get enough of it. :D
 
I really think Lord Stark has lost his head.

The lack of tactical awareness from the man is just staggering. He tells The Queen that he knows the secret then gives her enough time to kill the King, round up all the Stark swords and seize the throne.

He's becoming a bit of a pathetic figure, to be honest. Not sure how much sympathy one can have for someone so inept.
 
Errol said:
I really think Lord Stark has lost his head.

The lack of tactical awareness from the man is just staggering. He tells The Queen that he knows the secret then gives her enough time to kill the King, round up all the Stark swords and seize the throne.

He's becoming a bit of a pathetic figure, to be honest. Not sure how much sympathy one can have for someone so inept.
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Yup, noble to the point of near-stupidity... but remember that he has no head for politics and spends all his time in the harsh Northlands where his will is obeyed without question and no-one is contending for his position. I think his lack of skill with guile is quite explainable, though no less frustrating when you see him getting done over repeatedly.
 
Errol said:
I really think Lord Stark has lost his head.

The lack of tactical awareness from the man is just staggering. He tells The Queen that he knows the secret then gives her enough time to kill the King, round up all the Stark swords and seize the throne.

He's becoming a bit of a pathetic figure, to be honest. Not sure how much sympathy one can have for someone so inept.
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To be fair, I don't think that Cersei did actually kill Robert - she ensured he was plied with strong wine (possibly stronger than wine should be) which one can imagine is dangerous when hunting in Westeros. However I'm convinced that it was just a co-incidence that it happened when it did - there's no way she could have guaranteed a boar would be there and that it would fatally gore Robert, she just made it more likely. I'm sure she would have had some other cunning plan though if Robert hadn't been killed.

It's easy to criticise Ned, but his only credible alternative was to follow Littlefinger's and Renly's plan, which would have involved violence to innocent children and also had no basis in law (just like Robert and Ned's rebellion against Mad King Aerys). How many of us could have made that decision? I also think Ned was mindful that the Seven Kingdom's had just been through one nasty civil war and thought it couldn't really afford another one, which arresting Cersei and Joffrey would have ensured - he was desperately trying to find a peaceful solution.
 
Errol said:
I really think Lord Stark has lost his head.

The lack of tactical awareness from the man is just staggering. He tells The Queen that he knows the secret then gives her enough time to kill the King, round up all the Stark swords and seize the throne.

He's becoming a bit of a pathetic figure, to be honest. Not sure how much sympathy one can have for someone so inept.
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To be fair his plan could have worked out brilliantly if he hadn't been stabbed in the back (both literally and otherwise ;) ).
 
Errol said:
I really think Lord Stark has lost his head.

The lack of tactical awareness from the man is just staggering. He tells The Queen that he knows the secret then gives her enough time to kill the King, round up all the Stark swords and seize the throne.

He's becoming a bit of a pathetic figure, to be honest. Not sure how much sympathy one can have for someone so inept.
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The thing to remember which i'm not sure comes across as clear in the series as it does in the book is that Ned is a man of absolute honour, even knowing it may cost him his life.

I'm paraphrasing but he's asked "what on earth made you warn the queen"...to which he replies a single word "mercy".

He's simply not prepared for just how cold and merciless that Cersei and the Lannisters are when it comes so seizing control/power.
 
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