** Summer Transfer Window 2011/12 Season Rumours/Signings **

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Another story in the mirror tomorrow is Berbatov to PSG for 18m, they've been linked with him for a while now but again as it's the Mirror I'll believe it when I see it.

Hypothetically though if it were to be true then unfortunately it's too good an offer to turn down due to Berbatov's age, contract length and the fact that it would free up spaces and opportunities for our younger players Welbeck and Macheda.

I like Berbatov and he seems to genuinely love being at UTD but if it turns out to be true then I think we'd sell.
 
Agreed, I really have a lot of respect and admiration for berbatov but I can't see a place for him in our plans next year. We have rooney and hernandez as the first choice with macheda, welbeck and owen as backup. I would rather have berbatov than any of welbeck, macheda or owen but for the amount he costs and the quality he has, he deserves to play regular football.

I really felt for him being left out of the champions league final. Im sure that I read somewhere that he sat inside during the final crying because he felt so embarrassed to be left out of the squad. He has never had a bad word to say about united and has been a professional throughout.

One of my favourite players but there is just not room for him with all the youngsters about and we should cash in on him while we can. Off the wage bill and soften the blow of any new signings we make (please sign sneijder fergie!).
 
Biz.Kid09 said:
More rehashed quotes from when he first joined.
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They are most certainly not rehashed, SSN are showing the televised interview he did with Sky Italia following yesterdays game

EDIT: SSN are also reporting that City are trying to push through a transfer to Inter for Tevez, short of giving Inter the 50m themselves to pay for him not sure how the selling club can push through a transfer? Unless their stance of Tevez costing 50m for a European club has softened since signing Aguero...
 
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£18m for Berba - wow bite PSG's hand off Fergie (he always tried it has to be said, even if it didnt look like it some of the time - but for some reason it never quite worked out for Berba given the amount of time he got on the field and how many opportunites went begging - even if he did score some spectacular ones also)

The big thing that says to me that its a hoax (unfortunately) is that £18m seems to be about double any other offer that has been reported we have got for Berba

As for WS - praying its true but my brain is telling me its more bs :(
 
Shamikebab said:
The only thing that makes me think we might sell Berbatov is that we haven't sold or loaned any of our other strikers out yet.
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Very good point indeed - Macheda is still young (even if last season as a whole was a complete disaster), Welbeck I have a feeling will get as much playing time out wide as he does centrally......were rumours about diouf going to Blackpool ....dont think that was ever more than a rumour though (not that he would really be in SAF's considerations I wouldnt have thought)
 
Manchester City are ready to make a £22m bid for Arsenal midfielder Samir Nasri in the next 48 hours.
Full story: The Sun

That would be a nice sub of money for an unhappy player. SELL SELL SELL!!!
 
bloodline76 said:
Manchester City are ready to make a £22m bid for Arsenal midfielder Samir Nasri in the next 48 hours.
Full story: The Sun

That would be a nice sub of money for an unhappy player. SELL SELL SELL!!!
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That would be awesome, sell Nasri, buy Mata, keep Cesc. Keeping him at this stage is just ridiculous.
 
Football gone mad. porto want 100 million for hulk (euros). he's alright but he's not that good.

In other news, skelenburg signs for roma -5.8 million or so.

Mata bid from the gooners rejected.
 
Tom84 said:
They are most certainly not rehashed, SSN are showing the televised interview he did with Sky Italia following yesterdays game

EDIT: SSN are also reporting that City are trying to push through a transfer to Inter for Tevez, short of giving Inter the 50m themselves to pay for him not sure how the selling club can push through a transfer? Unless their stance of Tevez costing 50m for a European club has softened since signing Aguero...
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They are, he said the same things a few months ago.
I am not saying that they are using the same interview but he is saying the same things.
Doesn't make a difference if you like Manchester or not, look at Tevez. Still scored plenty of goals and worked for the team and he hates Manchester.

Rumour of a swap deal involving Maicon/Eto'o is what i have heard and hopefully not true.
 
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Sorry, when you said EVERY SINGLE PLAYER, I forgot that Newcastle got fined heavily every game for only fielding 4 players..... and they still wouldn't start Ranger :p

Well, it would seem Enrique is "doing a Nasri", got a few people talking about him, suddenly unhappy with a mere 80k a week offer, rather like Cole almost crashing his car when offered 55k.

Sorry but, the offers aren't flooding in for Enrique, and he seems to want out, or a lot more money and the board aren't offering it.

Again theres I think you and Baz both hinting that theres some massive problems behind the scenes, really bad treatment and shocking behaviour.

I see players near the end of their contract wanting way more money, thinking they deserve massive pay rises, and a club in debt who are shifting players out and bringing in cheaper replacements.

Wenger does that and people call him a genius, even when players complain after they leave as most of Arsenals players do. When Flamini walked and wouldn't sign a new contract, or this Nasri stuff, or Vieira wanting out, did anyone start hinting that everything behind the scenes is rotten?

3 players who think they can get a lot more money, fair play to them, Nolan's got it, Enrique and Barton might get more money elsewhere, I fail to see how the club not wanting to give them more money suggests there is a huge problem behind the scenes.

I can't remember who it was who linked Nile "having to rethink his position at the club" posted in response to Barton being told to smeg off. But its simply about him not getting a game.

http://au.eurosport.com/football/premier-league/2009-2010/enrique-slams-liars_sto2884045/story.shtml

Its this kind of thing I tend to read as, he's been offered a contract but its not for more money. Read at the top he isn't claiming he hasn't been offered a new contract, he's said he hasn't been offered and improvement in his salary, and later on also seems to be saying, they gave me the same money, they are unwilling to spend.

Now if he's on 20k a week, thats one thing, but was he signed by previous managers in Newcastles ridiculous high wages situation where he's already on 40k a week and a very highly paid left back already? Same goes for Barton and likely Nolan, they were signed by idiot managers who were handing out wages like Candy which is part of the reason the club is in major debt. A few guys want more money, only West Ham were stupid enough to offer it to Nolan. Yeah, its all about the football for Nolan, not the money, thats why he went to the championship for a ridiculous 5 year deal.
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I don't always agree with you DM but thats a fair point.

Them 3 players (amongst others) joined when the club was still a mickey mouse outfit before we got relegated. Paying anyone who would join us 40-50k+ regardless, not thinking about length of deals and sliding the way of Leeds.

For all that I hate Cashley he has made the club cut its cloth accordingly, we will never be a top 4 club again and best we can hope for is Europa League. These goals do not coincide with everyone getting 50k+ a week. You are talking the 25-40k banding with maybe a "star" player on a little more.

The 3 main whiners are players already on the 40-50k and still want more. They were offered contracts Enrqiue slightly more with Barton and Nolan offered less to reflect the clubs new position. Rather than saying "ok they offered me a contract, not for me i'll just move on" they whine and **** and moan in the press and over twitter to make themselves sound martyrs because the club will no longer overpay them :confused:

If they think they are worth more money thats fine by me they can leave, personally I would have liked all 3 to stay as they are good players, but they are doing themselves no favours carrying out a character assassination on the club because they know that with Cashley at the helm they are a (relatively) easy target.

Move on and let the club get on with the restructuring, don't like it leave and see if someone else will overpay you (like lolham united)
 
By 'restructuring' do you mean 'preparing for relegation' ?
I mean, thats what tends to happen when you sell your best players and replace them with average crap. Which is probably why there's so much noise coming out of the players there.
 
Alpherah said:
By 'restructuring' do you mean 'preparing for relegation' ?
I mean, thats what tends to happen when you sell your best players and replace them with average crap. Which is probably why there's so much noise coming out of the players there.
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I don't think hes doing things that well, hes to ready to wield the hatchet and not quick enough to get extra players in but I can see what he is trying to achieve.

We still need a right midfielder, central midfielder, striker and a left back is Enrique does leave and if he can replace them with decent enough players on the wages he wants then happy days. Will he do that? Probably not.

They have been relatively busy in the transfer market but they need more. Plus its a worry that this Marveoux and Ben Arfa who both look fantastic players are injury prone.

We'll see I guess but it is nice to see a club trying to do things sensibly for once. The sky bubble cannot last forever and clubs like Arsenal, Sunderland, Newcastle, Stoke (i'm sure there are others) will be best placed if things do go breasts up.

Alpherah said:
I mean, thats what tends to happen when you sell your best players and replace them with average crap. Which is probably why there's so much noise coming out of the players there.
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Personal opinion on what I have seen on pre-season (and if they can adapt to the rigours of EPL football week in week out) Cabaye is better than both Nolan and Barton, Barton chucked his biggest and seemingly final hissy fit after the Leeds friendly because Cabaye is better than him at taking corner and free kicks and Barton went back to his childish ways and chucked his toys out the pram becasue "that was his job" Lost Routledge replaced with Marveoux which is a big upgrade. Ba is nowhere near as good as Carroll but he does seem to be a player who can score goals. With the right additions things could go all right this year, alternatively they could go horribly wrong.

As I said though, I would prefer to keep Barton, Nolan and Enrique but unfortunately the club can't afford their wage demands anymore.
 
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Alpherah said:
By 'restructuring' do you mean 'preparing for relegation' ?
I mean, thats what tends to happen when you sell your best players and replace them with average crap. Which is probably why there's so much noise coming out of the players there.
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YOu do realise all three players were there when they got relegated, so pretending they can prevent it on their own is completely laughable.

As for replacing them with crap, Nolan had a half decent season but most of his and Carroll's goals came from set pieces, people will get better at marking Newcastle out especially as they've lost their biggest player, as in literally their tallest/strongest player to make room at those corners. Nolan is also 30 and demaded a 5 year contract and he's apparently got an almost 50% raise by going to West Ham. WEst Ham's ridiculous lack of sanity really shouldn't be ignored.

Newcastle in huge debt, offloaded high wage players, isn't being held to ransom, is clawing back money and is doing well in the premiership, West Ham are almost the reverse, in massive debt, going downhill, board buying the wrong players, for too much cash and ultra high wages for a club that doesn't have the money.


They've replaced Nolan with a guy intergral to winning the double for Lille, thats hardly replacing with rubbish, they've got a striker who is massively, massively, massively better than they finished last season with. Ben Arfa is back from injury and could make a massive contribution. Tiote was bought by the massive incompetant owners, who was one of Newcastles best players last season.

Newcastle are running the club exactly how any inteligent businessman would sorting out debt before increasing spending.

People questioned if they would get right back to the prem, they did, they wondered if the debt would crush Newcastle, no its been dealt with brilliantly, they wondered if the crushing wages from the ridiculous buys Fat Sam made would kill them, no dealt with(while West Ham are now the benefactors of that brain dead moron), they got back to the prem and people said they'd go down, they didn't, were they the top scorers of the 3 promoted teams, the highest placed of the promoted teams one of the top scorers outside the top 4-5 teams, without a striker for half the season?

People want to hate AShley because........ he fired an incompetant manager and dealt with a couple hundred million of debt he inhereted. Since he got the club they were relegated, but that was the result of the team he inhereted and the wages of those players, who he couldn't get rid of instantly. Since they've gone the club has been on the up, nothing less.

I've been saying for over 2 years I can't understand a single piece of the criticism of Ashley, this was a club close to completely bankruptcy that he's saved and slowly dealt with every issue already at the club when he bought it. Sure he's made mistakes, bought some bad players, name a single manager or other club that hasn't, thats football some players work out and some don't.

Overall he's reduced debt, got the team back to midtable in the prem, scoring attacking football, a good set of players, getting rid of trouble makers, cashing in on ridiculous transfer offers is GOOD BUSINESS.
 
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Its simply the way he goes about things. For a billionaire he's so cack handed it's unreal. He offends the fans, the players, the local press and generally acted the clown.

As ive said I have a lot of respect for what he is trying to achieve I just find his methods at times confusing/annoying.
 
No1newts said:
Its simply the way he goes about things. For a billionaire he's so cack handed it's unreal. He offends the fans, the players, the local press and generally acted the clown.

As ive said I have a lot of respect for what he is trying to achieve I just find his methods at times confusing/annoying.
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Well i dont understand the thinking behind giving one of your best players a free transfer. If he wants rid of him he could have stuck him up at a couple of million and there would still be a number of takers.
 
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